In an interview between Taliesin and Morgan Day, Morgan Day was quoted saying
- They’re still very much dedicated to the alt-friendly philosophy we began to see introduced towards the end of Shadowlands. Dragon riding mount aesthetic customization unlocks will be account-wide. They’re still discussing dragon riding progress itself.
And I will say, full-stop if they do not make dragonriding progression account wide after bending over backwards to keep reiterating how ALT-FRIENDLY this expansion is supposed to be, I’ll quit after playing through the story and get my enjoyment out of my single main.
Shadowlands, BFA, Legion - they’ve all taught me to enjoy the leveling but then to bug off until the last patch of the expansion when they finally “listen” to the community that’s been prodding them to remove the annoyances of their respective expansion systems that should’ve been rectified since day 1. And with season 4 for shadowlands being a thing, I’ll happily wait until season 4 of Dragonflight before I even deign to consider playing in Bobby’s little skinner box when they get around to “listening to the community” again.
Make dragonriding progression account wide day 1. There’s no discussion to be made. Just do it.
29 Likes
Oh don’t be a muppet.
They said the customization is, just the progress is not.
Which there is no power gain from it. So why does it matter? Stop trying to get the game to play for you, and actually play.
12 Likes
Your alt’s mount having 10% less stamina or not being able to do a barrel-roll in the air is not even in the realm of making an expansion alt-unfriendly.
I agree it would should be account wide.
But dude, you’re being incredibly dramatic. You’re also going into it with the expectation of alts being the only thing keeping you playing. Personally, I’m hoping that I wont even want alts.
3 Likes
I pray this doesn’t mean all our alts have to ride the same exact dragon. That would be terrible. Not just from a customization standpoint, but also because it would broadcast to everyone who all a person’s alts are.
Wait what? Citation?
( question is ~7:10 of the interview; “still discussing”… after the shadowlands experience, I don’t understand why more per-character progression systems would even be seriously considered )
So… unlocking something on one character and wanting it on another character is “getting the game to play for you”?
13 Likes
Come on man, you know better by now.
No way it’s gonna be account wide.
This stuff never is.
Wait, I’m sorry. it’s not man, it’s body type 1.
5 Likes
In 10.1.5 they’ll add a vendor which gives you 30 Renown with the Dragonriders and you’ll be able to do a skip which puts you past the 10.0 Dragonriding campaign.
1 Like
I’m hoping we can at least cause enough of a stir to make them reconsider their stance
I actually agree with the OPs sentiment because, largely, I play Guild Wars 2: their mount system and progression is account wide even to new level
1 (2 after tutorial?) characters.
Given, I know the systems between both games are different, but having all the progression done on your (assumably) main to carry over to alts is not a world ending thing: in-fact it’s a nice quality of life.
If GW2 made me level my masteries for every single mount on every single character I would probably have quit a long time ago. I see no reason why dragonflight should be progressed per character (other than masochistic replayability for something that is more or less cosmetic and convenient travel).
Apologies for the butt load of edits, I didn’t proof-read properly it seems. <_<
4 Likes
Not sure I comprehend why anyone would be upset by having a better way to quest on alts. Y’all do realize you’re getting a ToF 2.0 and would have to relearn dragon riding all over again for it?
2 Likes
But they literally played the game. That’s how it’s unlocked.
9 Likes
I thought people would learn by now.
Blizzard is not interested in you being able to finish a lot of the content in a reasonable amount of time, and then go on to enjoy a little time away from WoW.
You are supposed to play WoW all the time - and the game is designed as such, hence why it has been a total mess the last couple of years.
3 Likes
WoW’s game director, Ion Hazzikostas, has also confirmed that Dragon Riding unlocks will be account-wide. “We’ve talked about the philosophy of what should be character-specific progression, what should be progression that you, the human behind the keyboard, are making across your accounts. The convenience of traversal felt like one of those things—that’s only fun to go in one direction. Having to re-unlock it on subsequent characters would not be terribly compelling.”
3 Likes
Well, well.
Seems like there is hope for the WoW dev team anyway.
Gonna look forward to see if Dragonflight will end up being worth a buy.
Can’t preorder or prepurchase without owning Shadowlands anyway.
Just wait for it to go live SL should be included with it by then
Eeeh, nah.
Shadowlands was hailed and praised while also criticized during its testing period.
Turned out to be absolute dogcrap much like BFA upon release.
I strongly doubt that Dragonflight IS NOT going to be the exact same thing again.
“We listen to the community… in the last patches of the expansion, of course.”
I’ll give it a month.
I might even wait till the expansion following Dragonflight to see how that is… just to be sure.
were it not for the fact that tier 1 of a fresh expansion wasn’t so much to progress with my guild I’d probably be doing the same
When I read that they were planning to release more frequent, but smaller patches for Dragonflight, it translated roughly (in my opinion) to: “we’re going to time-gate a LOT of the content you love on all your alts, and release it when we feel you’re ready for it”.
Lots and lots of small timegates, rather than really long ones?
I dunno. We waited like a year and a half for a maw skip. This might be a good thing.
Agreed. Whenever stuff isn’t account wide, I just don’t do it on more then 1 toon. When it becomes unfriendly to alts, I don’t play alts. Then when I get bored on my main, I just stop logging in.
More account wide stuff = more time to gear alts, raid on alts etc = I play MORE.
I don’t regrind stuff over and over and over.
1 Like