Having seen a video comparing pre-nerf Soar to the post-nerf version, it’s pretty clear the nerf is going to kill a lot of the fun. But I also think Blizzard trying to “balance” Soar is wildly unnecessary, and in fact is wasting their own time.
Listen; we all know the deal. We’ve been playing this game too much for too long, and we all know where things are inevitably going to go. At SOME point, Dragonriding is going to be enabled in the entire game. It is inevitable; it is GOING to happen.
To me, the most practical solution for all this mess should go as follows:
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Treat “Soar” as the Dracthyr’s own Dragonriding mount, much like the Worgen’s Running Wild. When you on the Dragon Isles, remove the cooldown and let them use the same abilities as the actual Dragonriding mount. If you’re NOT on the Dragon Isles, either slap on a cooldown, or just disable it entire (for now; read on).
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Just go ahead and announce that Dragonriding WILL be coming to the rest of the game. We all know it will anyways. But give us the earnest reasoning why it won’t be there AT LAUNCH; because players need time to actually play with it on Retail, because bugs are also somewhat inevitable until the feature is out in the wild.
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Similarly, because of that, there isn’t a direct timeline for exactly when Dragonriding will be added. In a perfect world, where there are absolutely no issues with the function at all, it could be added as soon as 10.1, but if there ARE issues, it may be pushed back until solutions for said issues are found and implemented.
Now, for the record, I’m honestly VERY stoked about the idea of using Soar to fly around the old world. But then, I also think the idea that they can get around 2-3 times faster in pre-Dragonflight zones is a valid concern. I’m not sure it’s a MAJOR concern, but a valid all the same.
So honestly? If you ARE going to nerf it – which I personally think is unnecessary (especially with a 5-minute timer that doesn’t even start until AFTER you land), but whatever – then please, do so with the expectation that “once we allow Dragonriding EVERYWHERE, we’re totally going to un-nerf it”.
But in the meantime, when you’re in the Dragon Isles, I’d still like to see it treated like THEIR version of a Dragonriding mount, personally.
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I dont know.
I can see “those zones werent coded for this -something-something technical too hard this-that”.
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I’ve been saying that for a while. When 410% speed was introduced there were game crashes associated with it. Could be they identified something, and it’s easier to claim balance instead of not wanting to recode all the zones in the game.
One of the first video to come out.
Doesn’t seem too bad, if anything it looks more like dragon flying for me after nerfs than before.
Original one is like super hero flying.
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It’s really not that bad. Pre-nerf was Superman 64 flying through hoops and ish, now it’s just a bit more weighty and still faster than regular flight.
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I’m going to pretend that I didn’t read this. Have a wonderful day, Bye.
Dragon riding sounds awful. I’d much rather have regular flying instead.
Ion said they’re waiting to see how the entire player base responds to dragon riding, as everyone loving it - and continuing to love it months down the road - is not a foregone conclusion.
He also said work would have to be done current mounts since the animations are different and would look bad on certain mounts and they don’t want to negate people’s huge collections.
And I think they have to make changes to the zones themselves, but can’t remember if Ion specifically addressed that. So it won’t be a simple process if they decide to do it.
If Blizz doesn’t put dragonriding in every other place I am going to walk to blizzard HQ and slap every single employee in the face I am NOT KIDDING
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It makes no sense for Blizzard not to put Dragon Riding in the rest of the old expansions. Going back to regular flying hurts now and I can’t leave the Dragonflight zones because of it. It is just way too much cringe how long we’ve been dealing with ugly, slow flying
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The only good mount is Dragon Riding mounts for me now. Every time I have to go to Stormwind I groan because of having to look at the crusty old flying. The only good thing about old flying is auto-flight. I will always use it for that, and that’s a fact.
It better not become a game wide feature until Dragon Riding is perfect. at the moment its slow sluggish and with Dragonflight’s terrain most cases useless Ohnaran Plains is the only place it has decent useability anywhere else its giant mountaints/trees to slow you down. If they do make it game wide and I highly doubt they will it wont last longer than 2 patces.
What I mean by that is if “soo” many players enjoy it which I doubt than they will try to phase out the old way of getting around the game instead of improving that. I for one detest Dragon Riding in its current form I would rather go by ground and flight paths currently if I was even active in the latest 10.1 patch which due to blizzard’s poor system implementation they have once again ruined the gearing process. Keep Dragon riding where it started and don’t make it a mandatory feature which in the long run people will hate but it will be that baked into the gameplay of what ever expansion is coming next that we will be stuck with it. So don’t go jumping on the YES BWIZZARD ADD IT EVERYWHERS trend you will end up regretting it.
It amazes me that people still haven’t realize that Blizzard is going to do the absolute bare minimum every single time. Add in the fact that they no longer have the talent or the resources to keep even the live game functioning smoothly, and you are on some premium herbage if you still have faith in them to do this anytime soon, and do it correctly.
This is a player issue. I don’t even know where to begin with trying to understand what you are saying. Dragon riding is amazing and has almost no cons (besides lack of hover/slow flying) once you have all the glyphs and know how to do it properly. You can take off with full vigor from anywhere in the continent and fly to anywhere else with full vigor and maintaining full speed almost the entire time.
I don’t use this phrase lightly, but this truly is a case of “git gud”.
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It is anything but slow and sluggish. If that is your experience, then quite frankly you aren’t doing it right. 
There is also nothing wrong with adding it to other areas of the game, so long as they make it an option to use both types of flight…which, so far, they are doing. I’m not saying that they are incapable of messing this up or making bullheaded decisions, and we all know that there will be bugs, but most of your concerns are either unwarranted or uninformed currently.
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That they want to make us slower with something that’s purely a QoL thing shows their priorities. They want everything to take longer…as if flying fast is why blizz is constantly loosing players rather then the over tuned unfun state of keys.
Dragonriding across all zones is already confirmed. It’s just a matter of when they will implement the patch.
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To anybody wondering how to do it right, the first step is to go collect all of the glyphs. Look up the coordinates or find an addon that shows them on your map.
Once you have all these and have all of your skills maxed out, remember that Skyward Ascent is almost always better than Surge Forward for gaining speed (gives you altitude that you can exchange for speed if needed). Taking off should be you aiming straight upwards while spamming Skyward Ascent until you are out of vigor and about to start losing vertical speed, and then you level off and find the proper glideslope to build vigor while minimizing altitude loss. I would HIGHLY recommend the addon Movement Speed for this, as it shows you your lateral speed and will help you find the precise angle to maintain speed.
That’s it. That’s literally all there is to it, besides hitting Skyward Ascent a couple of times while gliding to regain some altitude and keep from capping your vigor. After that, throw in Whirling Surge/Surge Forward to spend vigor when you have enough altitude to get to your destination and don’t need to save it for altitude anymore.
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This is the last thing I will say pertaiing to Dragon Riding. It was good on paper and should of translated better when it came to being implemented. But I don’t see that nor do I see it ever being a replacement for what has been the Default for over 10 years. If they do plan on having it as an alternatve option then it needs an entire overhaul. For 1.) Taking off from the ground should take no bvigor( if it does then you should be launched more then 20 feet, atleast as high enough to where its has no detriment).2) Vigor regeneratib us fine for people who have mastered it or are above average skill. Currently idle regeneration is abysmal.3.More glyps are needed ( granted we have a good amount at te moment) but more is needed to fully make Dragon Riding the go to for everyone over the old method. As stated in my OP here until they have perfected Dragon riding not just on the dragon isles but every single expansion if that is what is being planned then I see no point of it going there until then.
They’ve said that it’s going to be available across all zones eventually. They’ve also said that only specific mounts will have DR capabilities and that you can toggle between normal flight and dragon flight for those mounts.
TL/DR; There’s nothing to get upset about with flying, it’s all good!