hopefully we will see more of the dragonmaw!
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This single questline was better than the entirety of the last two expansions.
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Innovative quest design. Usually you need to kill the monster to advance the quest, but this one dies all on his own.
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Dragonmaw are like the Scarlets of Orcs at this point.
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That was neat. I hope we see more of the Horde Dragonmaw from now on. Has Gorfax Angerfang been spotted in the alpha ?
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Why does this one deserve it? What did he do to earn it?
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That was all pretty well written. And why I hope we get more stuff like it.
âOne cannot deserve dignity. It is the right of all lifeâ is a solid line that sums up the Red Dragonflightâs ideology.
Always interesting to see how older Orcs cope with their past shenanigans as well. Makes for good world building.
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For what the Dragonmaw clan did to Alextrazsa and her flight.
The word that rhymes with grape.
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As the story goes the Orc went to his death in a dishonorable way as far. He accepted death in dishonor. He chose to go in shame due to his guilt.
He believed he had no right to an honorable death and thus let a dishonorable death take him.
In otherwords the greatest shame for an Orc would be to either commit suicide, die from poisoning from someone outside of combat or to die from old age in their sleep.
Of course the Red Dragonflight gave him a memorial even though in his and his Raceâs eyes he gave himself the worst punishment possible.
His former enemies and his closest friend will remember him but most of his Race wonât even acknowledge his existence.
He regained some Honor by defying Garrosh yet not all of it and his death shows this. He gained honor from his friend and his enemies yet not the majority his people.
This one gave me chills. That was beautiful
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Hell, the Red Dragons tried to find ways to redeem the Black Dragonflight, the key one being Rheaâs experiments that resulted in Wrathion, before they went full on âkill them allâ towards the end of Twilight Highlands. And if her response to her kill Malygos order pained her so during the Nexus War, no doubt Alexstrasza felt that was the last course of action she could do and felt guilty for giving it.
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Blizzard: Races cannot be guilty of things such as racism or sexism as a whole.
Also Blizzard: Removes trollbaneâs racism against Orcs.
Treng: yeah but like having the badge of what orcs did to dragons isnât doing orcs any favors.
Also Blizzard: quadruple down on orcs who did the thing.
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I wanted to cry.
I didnât because Iâm in public, but I wanted to.
I love redemption stories.
Like Saurfang talking to Garrosh in Borean Tundra- this guy is a penultimate Orc. Caught between love of oneâs people and love of life itself. A race that quickly rose to power in false pursuit of salvation, found themselves enabling massively evil forces beyond their comprehension, and sincerely wanting to undo the past.
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A war criminal that tortured kids and butchered them like animals.
Did nothing to redeem himself.
Gets redeemed by a completely unrelated dude that neither experienced or knew about the tragedy.
Wow. Isnât that just great and a tear jerker?
Completely undeserved.
But I guess thats just a Horde thing, kill babies over and over. Feel bad.
Oh its ok!
Sorry maybe I am being harsh but this is the same celebration of morally reprehensible people escaping any consequence on the merit of âfeeling badâ as being the one and only criteria needed to be absolved.
Seriously lame, it reeks of privilage and tone deafness.
Iâm pretty sure fighting against Garrosh, Zaela, and Sylvanas was supposed to represent a form of redemption.
But in a sense what you trivialize as âfeeling badâ is redemption and rebirth. The character has no seeming connection to his past values and beliefs that enabled him to abuse Dragons. His current values and beliefs regarding the Second War are seemingly in line with yours, mine, and the dragons themselves- effectively making him a new person with little semblance to his younger self except for sharing the meat sack we call a body.
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It isnât and does not absolve him in any way.
Maybe in christianity where accepting christ in your heart somehow is supposed to absolve you of all sin and people should praise you like they would a saint.
Just because a criminal feels bad for wrong doing doesnt make them immune to the horrible things they did before.
This is an extremely cheap âredemptionâ that does nothing for the victims and serves to absolve the abuser.
They have done this repeatedly.
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The problem is, people like you donât actually want the viscous cycle to end. Than you loose everything to complain about how the alliance and etc are the eternal victims
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I am asking for genuine redemption stories where the villain.
In this case this old Orc actually makes amends, not this âboohoo I am sad, feel bad for me, in the grace of jesus I am born anew.â
No.
Exactly we have the boohoo me so sad. Me no that kind of Orc.
Aaaaaaaaaaaand another genocide and we repeat this cycle.
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No one forgave the old orc though. The Dragonkin innkeeper merely helped the younger orc come to terms with his friends passing.
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Problem is the audience interprets it as a redemption story.
If that was not the intent they should have been more clear.
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