HUD UI design / Interface (Dragonflight related HUD UI not live)
Art / Design (armors and zones)
Dungeons and raid design
Character models
Class design / Talent trees
Which one wins in these current categories?
Until the expansion releases…
Music and gameplay (Dragonflight music / other expansion) will be added in these categories.
FF14 definitely wins in character models and armor. That’s about it IMO. I don’t respect FF14 as a game and treat it more like a book lol. Click through hours of dialogue just to play the game 10% of the time.
I prefer FF XIV’s UI, but that is a matter of personal preference.
FF XIV wins armor design, hands down. Zones…depends. I would also say that is a matter of personal preference for that one.
Again, personal preference
Personal preference
Personal preference
TLDR: It’s a matter of personal preference for just about everything you have listed.
Eh. I kinda disagree there. Even in late FFXIV expansions the textures can be really low quality and look like it’s still 2010.
1. HUD UI design / Interface
WoW, but mainly cause of the availability of customization and addons.
2. Art / Design (armors and zones)
Armor: FF14
Zones: WoW
3. Dungeons and raid design
FF14, I find their design a lot more compact and boss encounters are more fun.
4. Character models
Animation: FF14
Variety: WoW
5. Class design / Talent trees
Gameplay: WoW
Class Fantasy: FF14
As someone who pre ordered FF14 in 2010… FF14 was a downgrade from the moment it was a realm reborn.
The gameplay does sucks as well. Yes Ultimate is very difficult but it’s not worth the hassle in my opinion for getting no reward that actually nothing but being a flex piece of transmog/glamour.
The gearing up sucks, the gear is blend and generic. Upgrading is nothing but a bigger stats thick with another piece of armor that clog up inventory because their fashion system is garbage and they never increased the inventory not even once since the game release, so enjoy spending additional sun fee with those silly “extra” retainers.
The wardrobe they give is nowhere near enough. They removed requirement slot just to be able to code in 2 new class(jobs) and then they send their producer upfront trying to soothe the angry crowd and they all eat up in his hand.
That player base has no spine. People are perhaps more toxic on WoW but the general, typical experience is better than dealing with FF14 constant passive aggressiveness because those GM police everything you from emote to casting spells in a public area to every message being said. Making most experience more lame than WoW retail LFG where nobody say a dam word, because they know any comment risk getting their account hit with a penalty.
Everything new they add is less and less effort. Half of the new cloths/mounts are all cash shop and the gameplay itself obtains very little of it to acquire through means of playing.
I can’t recommend that game. Play it once, experience the story. It sort of feel like a never ending story. Quite after Endwalker story because that wrap a 11 years saga. The new stuff really doesn’t matter. Treat it like a single player game and pretend other players are “smart” yet dumb NPC’s you play with like it was a Dragon Age playthrough.
ill put it plainly. im a avid wow enjoyer since mop.
DF is the only expansion i havent preordered.
no hype in my bones. ive lost touch with the game.
Seems foolish to compare one WoW xpac against an entire MMO. But, here we go:
1. UI/Interface: I’ll give this one to WoW, but I do like how FFXIV’s UI is fully customizable without the need for add-ons.
2. Art/Design: Armor 100% goes to FFXIV. WoW still has gear that looks like it’s been pasted onto your character’s body. The gear in FFXIV has much better texturing, depth, and physics. As far as zone design goes, I’ll give that one to WoW since I think Blizz has always done a great job with zones. FFXIV has some gorgeous areas, but their explorability is limited due to treasures, secrets, and rares not really being a thing.
3. Dungeon & Raid Design: This goes to FFXIV for me. I have way more fun in extreme trials and raids in FFXIV vs. WoW. Fights are more theatrical with fun mechanics.
4. Character Models: This goes to FFXIV. I like the cartoony style of WoW, but FFXIV just does a MUCH better job with character movement and expressions.
5. Class Design/Talent Trees: This is difficult bc I enjoy classes in both games. In WoW, I like the smoothness and responsiveness of the combat. It’s also nice to be able to change your playstyle within a class via specs and talents. FFXIV’s classes feel like they have a bit more depth, and I like being able to make full use of my toolkit vs. getting stuck with the 3-4 button rotations that some WoW classes end up with. Combat in FFXIV feels more like a dance, especially with how it meshes with encounter design.
6. Music: The xpac isn’t out yet, but…I don’t think Dragonflight will hold a candle to FFXIV in this realm. I love the music in WoW, but FFXIV’s music is on another level. WoW’s music has never brought me to tears or made me feel the way that certain tracks in FFXIV have. And I think that comes down to how intimately FFXIV’s music is tied into its story.
Final fantasy and SquareSoft / SquareEnix been been around way longer than Blizz
Enix was founded in 2003 while blizzard was founded in 1991
How can you VS using something that isn’t released yet? But, from beta dragonflight experience vs FF14 experience(up to current patch):
Can’t comment much yet on DF’s UI - its taking time to adjust, fully changed. I prefer FF14’s UI(controller UI).
FF14 easily. Their everything designed is very unique.
Dungeons and raids are 2 entirely different things. And this area is objective from one’s personal opinion. But dungeons for M+(that may change with new limited death dungeons in FF14 soon), and both WoW and FF14 are equally matched in term of raids- neither is better IMO, they both get it right.
FF14 100%. WoW’s character models are 2004 cartoon models using PAINTED clothing and armor transmogs. FF14’s character models WEAR their clothing/armor - not paint them on. And their graphics are simply more lifelike.
That’s another one that is subjective to one’s experience. FF14 does NOT use any form of borrowed power or talent tree - they just have the job skills and that’s it. My experience with talent tree on DF beta, is that its an illusion of choice. There will always be a “BIS” talent tree for every dungeon M+ and raid boss. Also they lock you out of fun skills cause its not meta or strong enough. So FF14 wins because no choices to be made - your skills are your skills.
FF1’s release date was December 18th, 1987. It’s been around longer then Warcraft by a few years.
WoW will NEVER come close to having better music then FFXIV. Soken is a godlike composer who just makes the perfect songs for everything.
To name a few legendary songs he’s made:
beauty’s wicked wiles
With hearts aligned
Oblivion
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Endcaller
in the balance
All god tier music. When was the last time you walked into a wow boss fight and you lost focus because an epic song started playing phase 1 or 2? For me In the balance was the best because of how it started BEFORE you even engaged the boss but after you beat 3rd boss…it was PERFECT. Many times have I suddenly just lost focus to hear the epic song mid-boss fight into phase 2 transition too. But never in WoW…it’s sad.
Also yeah, FF14’s music completely outclasses WoW’s.
One of the main reasons I quit FF14 was because of how trash its UI is.
I think OP was debating a VS using base-game features, not addons that let you change things. In the same sense, addons for FF14 also allow you to do that - its just not spoken about.
Ah. Didn’t know there were UI addons for FF14, SE tend to be pretty anti-mod like you pointed out.
Hmm. Looks like SMN is a still a mindless down grade of BLM with a glorified night light that occasionally changes shape.
Both since now DF provides hud customization.
FF 14 purely because it has more variety and options in terms of armor. Both for zones I’d in terms of how they look.
FF14 again purely because it has way more well designed raids and dungeons.
Both.
Both?
That’s why its kept on the down-low, like fight club’s rule #1, you don’t talk about fight club, you don’t talk about mods. But there’s addons for everything as well.
WoW is better at everything including music; you have to be really sophisticated to enjoy the music of Shadowlands so it makes sense people think FFXIV’s inferior fake Devil May Cry music is better
Need 300 IQ in order to properly understand and enjoy WoW’s music.