The 2k replies are from the same 50 or so people, with half complaining about the mount being given away, and the half saying “I have the mount i dont care its being given away.” or trying to “dunk on” the people that are angry over the giveaway.
The codes were literally made to cross promote the WoW game and the WoW TCG. To get WoW players into the TCG by offering in game items and TCG players into the MMO game by making the same offer. They were and always have been Promotional items, not sure what would make you think otherwise. They weren’t added to the TCG to “just be nice.” Its all marketing.
You must have missed that over 10 years ago TCG items were added to the BMAH. Or that Bananas was given away for free to every player last year. Imp in a Ball was buyable for TBC Classic as part of the promotion for Classic. If all of that wasn’t enough of a clue I’m not sure you’re paying attention.
Assuming that an item is limited edition when Blizzard never said any of the TCG items were, and have is just setting yourself up for failure. People that were operating under the assumption of “Blizzard never said they WEREN’T limited though” were operating under some pretty shaky logic.
Always assume an item is NOT limited unless Blizzard specifically says it IS limited. There is nothing unprecedented about what they’re doing unless you’re choosing to ignore the multiple instances contrary to what you believe.
You’re right, and it’s not about swaying them into retracting or changing the reward of course.
It’s just a fact though that those mounts have a high and well established value in the game world.
The 2,2 comments and rising are from about 409 different users so far.
Adding to that the people from equivalent posts in DE, UK, FR and ESP forums, the consensus indeed seems to be that people are happy about the mount coming back.
The comparison though is skewed. This is not a black and white, yes or no question. They could (and should have) brought the mount back, but via appropriate means that reflect how it is perceived by many.
Even people with serious concerns about how the mount is returning are happy with the fact that they will get that mount (a mount many have been seeking for years for its allure… that mostly comes from its rarity.
Give it a few years and most of it will long have faded, for there are so many more beautiful, modern und detailed mounts ingame).
The majority rejects continued FOMO (even though Blizzard does not seem to share this view).
This is a decision unnecessary, unproportional and unprecedented.
But yeah, none of this really matters if you just decide so for the attention it creates, or if you just want the mount and go on about your day.
And the BMAH was a perfectly fine place for those items. And would have been a better place for the Feldrake.
Bananas and the tmog helmets both had their justified discontent to them. But it went rather unnoticed, for the items held not much value or prestige (Bananas was long available at the BMAH and the helmets where available for a long time via the shop).
I did not imply this wasn’t a clue. And it wasn’t an obvious one in that it allowed to draw the conclusion that it would escalate like this.
Everything that happens with TCG in classic is entirely disconnected from retail.
They could return every item to Classic (as they were poised to, appearently) and it would not mean a thing to retail, as they are to separate games.
No idea why they would just stop with that; not add the TCG mount to Classic and instead dedicate a whole new model to it instead of retail?
TCG in Classic is more comparable to TCG in China’s version of WoW - there is no history, nothing that has been established over the years. A fresh start from ground zero.
This holds truth. They never said that. And those who dealt in TCG, bought it as an investment etc. took the risk in a volatile market, especially in digital goods and even more so in this particular case.
I’d argue though that Blizzard could, at the very least, display a little more finesse and attention to detail, instead of just going straight for the axe (or rather ballista in this case).
Because this, in its magnitude, is absolutely unprecedented.
No, no it’s not. If it was why did it get changed so easily?
The only valuable thing to Blizzard is your money. And they don’t make a cent on the third party sales of those cards and codes.
Now like I said them being a promotional item being given away as such is perfectly fine to me. They were that in the beginning except it was promoting the TCG and not Twich. It’s the same thing regardless how much you want to dress it up.
Appearently it is, which is why people are up in arms.
But yes, totally agree, Blizzard does not seem to care for any of those arguments… or at least they find, whatever the premise might be, more important. Which I guess are new/returning players, attention and sweet, sweet money.
I’ve read and heard different from that - different in that it would make this promotion a very unusual and ineffective one; “Hey, since you collect WoW TCG, you seem to like the warcraft universe. Here, take this unproportionally rare (which would defeat most of the promotional purpose itself) code and try our game”.
Theres one thing most of you people complaining about seem to forget… WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW SOMEONE USE THIS MOUNT??? No one rides the dang thing anymore because cooler mounts have been released since. The TCG is no longer in print, yes the card value just dropped, but boo hoo… Its not your product to complain about. Blizz can do what ever they want with their products whether you like it or not. If you don’t like it, don’t play… It’ll be about as effective as the “sit” y’all had during the blizz protest a few months ago…
well… that’s what rare mounts are all about, aren’t they? people hunt and collect them for this very reason.
all of your “arguments” in there are more opinion than anything. and very extreme one. just as extreme as those few who want to keep those things fomo
Personally, I’m not mad that people are getting the Fel Drake, it’s a great looking mount that I have enjoyed for years and I’m perfectly happy to see more folks enjoy it.
No, what makes me mad is that now, when I use that mount, people might think I actually watched Twitch to get it.
shudders
Blizz should go back and give the original owners of the mount a FoS and maybe even a title to distinguish them from the unwashed masses who got it for doing virtually nothing at all.
Again: We do not need to concern us with these people because they are lost causes. A person, who whines about losing 3k because they went with this knowingly high risk has no right co complain. People die on the streets every day because they starve, are ill or have no shelter. And then we should take into consideration these unhinged people, who are so far away from reality? No. Just no.
They paid 3k and knew the risks of digital goods and yet they did it anyway.
They know that they do not own the account and items they earned and they did it anyway.
They have read the EULA and did it anyway.
No. Just no.
No. In reality, just the rich 0.1% will get these mounts. Put every FOMO-item on the store.
Again: again: As I and many other have pointed out: It’s not (and must not be) about those few people wo bought it for 3k and are now upset over their investment in a volatile market crashing.
Why do you keep trying to frame it like that so much?
It’s about everyone who likes rare items and does not want to see them crash and become just another number.
Good thing that, in a video game, you can just easily fiddle with the numbers to give way more people a chance (let alone that 0.1% is vastly exaggerated).
Or rework the BMAH.
Or give it to vendors for a suitable amount of gold or another currency.
The point is: All of this would have been more adequate and sense.
Are you that thick? I only mentioned the mint unscratched cards at least 10 times and if you are only looking at ebay then you have no idea what you are talking about because God knows ONLY ebay sells trading cards right?..right?
Scratched cards have the same value as a damage game box missing its manual and the cartridge not working
I ll repeat this once again: Do you believe that people who buy an original nintendo pokemon game sealed are doing this to open the game and play it? Is that honestly what you believe when you claim the people buying the cards are only doing so to scratch and use the codes?
I know you’re not asking me this but I honestly do think this is why people buy the cards.
TCG is dead. It never took off like Magic and it was replaced by Hearthstone. I won’t go so far to say “nobody plays” but anyone that does can get a spectral tiger card scratched for $50 to $100. Plus an unscratched tiger card is pretty much buying 8 figures in WoW gold. That’s the only value it has.
I bought about 20 packs way back when it was still a thing and I gave all the cards I got to my roommate for free, since he was a fan of TCGs. He said at the time that he was grateful - apparently some of the cards I gave him were pretty good ones for actual players of the game, but rare to find because most cards just got thrown in the trash straight after opening by WoW players just hunting for redeemable codes.
I did it too. They used to sell packs in Wal Mart and I would grab one of the $10 packages every now and then. Anything that didn’t have a code went into the garbage.
Because these people do not represent the majority. It’s their own fault in chasing a mount for RL-money which could have sustained a family in the 3rd world for years to come. There is no discussion about this foolishness these players displayed - and as long as they don’t make easily 3k per month, this risk is absolutely on them.
We - are - numbers.
That’s the whole problem with the EULA. You do not count, I do not count. Nobody counts here. If the developers truly care about us, we wouldn’t have these ridiculous systems in the first place. You say what you want about Final Fantasy 14 but unlike WoW it honors you. You can almost purchase anything from the store. FF14 knows that its a game and you are not obliged to play it 24/7. You can purchase past FOMO-items.
People who earnestly like “rare items”, for reasons other than lording it over other players who didn’t have the chance to buy them from a 3rd party website or get stupid lucky in pulling them, aren’t upset over this.
Over-generalizing people like this isn’t substantiated. There a lot of different people with discontent over this situation for a lot of different reasons.