Dragonflight S1 Raid Participation is DOA

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nods Understandable.

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glad I didnt pre-order. Back to power abuse by group leaders and casual PUGs get shafted

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I hit need. My roll is the highest. Why are people fighting over my gavel?

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It raises my mog collection by +1 and raises my gold amount by +60g.

It’s an upgrade.

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It wasn’t yours before you won the roll.

With Personal Loot you’re not rolling, the Game rolls and decides who to give it to.

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Group loot the game rolls and decides who to give it to as well. The difference is the roll is actually visible in group loot. Of course, who got the loot is visible in both systems.

I’m not sure what argument you’re trying to make here. If someone is going to complain about another person rolling need on a Gavel they don’t need, what’s stopping them from complaining about them refusing to trade a gavel they don’t need that they won on personal loot?

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No the players do.

It also gives loot no one can equip even if they want to.

Probably because that isn’t the argument here.

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Semantics. In both systems, a roll is done to decide who gets the piece of gear. The game decides who gets the gear in both situations.

Are you saying that doesn’t happen on the current system? Let’s see


“I’d give you this piece of gear if I could, but it’s soulbound. It’s technically an item level upgrade, but my legendary is in that slot.”

If it’s not, then why is it relevant that the game does the roll vs the players?

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It’s not.

There’s a difference between you rolling, rolling against a group of others, and the game rolling for you.

It does not.

You CAN still equip it, so you can add it to your mog closet or whatever, you not wanting to equip it for whatever reason is immaterial.

Now you can have Warglaives drop without even having DHs in the group, before all the loot that dropped could be equipped.

Because the psychological and social impact of the game giving you loot vs people actively competing for it, and the addition of throwing in loot people can’t equip even if they wanted to.

And no I don’t buy the stance of people acting like robots and saying there’s no positive/negative psychological hit in regards to loot for them.

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This change is amazing, now we don’t have the biggest issue with personal loot where all there terrible players at the bottom of the DPS or healing charts get the loot over the actual good players carrying them. Finally we can take some of that out by all rolling need and actually trade the gear to those who deserve it instead of the bads being rewarded as personal loot has forced us to do for so long. Thank you Blizzard for finally addressing the terrible option that is known as personal loot and as we can see from classic this choice will be a big hit so ignore all these people crying over nothing as they were the bads getting gear they didn’t deserve.

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So in this world there can be a lot of un-researched and uneducated bad takes on topics










 and this would be and example of one of those.

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Name checks out.

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I don’t get how these people think less competition hurts their odds. Personal loot forces everyone to roll.

Just nothing but bad takes.

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The refusal to acknowledge the Game rolling and giving out loot and the players rolling against each other for loot are two completely different things is a bad take.

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Speaking of people with awful takes


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1 scenario, I get mad at the game
2nd scenario, I feel anger and bitterness towards other players

Personal loot was a huge shift in social issues being resolved

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Excuse me. I like mastery

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Have you tried going outside?

Personal loot only was trash.

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I been playing since 2009. I have raided every raid. Personal loot I usually got 1-2 pieces a week and felt like I was making progress and being rewarded from raiding.

Previously I always felt shafted, would go weeks without seeing an item or having to deal with stupid loot systems that groups put in place. It wasn’t fun to spend hours raiding only to get not a single item/thing for my time. In pugs with loot systems like Group Loot your RNG can just result in you getting nothing. So why even bother raiding? Heck, I might not even bothering buying Dragonflight now.

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I’ll take things that didn’t happen for $500 Bob.

So you joined guilds and didn’t understand their loot systems or performed so bad you were low priority for gear.