Dragonflight Class Tuning Incoming - May 7

I wasn’t one of them. I, for one, love the rotation and the bringing old dungeons in the mix. I’ve been begging for that since BFA lol.

As far as the DF dungeons, I just don’t like them. I don’t like the checkpoints. I don’t like the fights (I like the Ice Lady in Halls, and that’s about it). I don’t like the pathing in most of them. -shrugs- They’re just not fun. I liked the SL dungeons more than the DF dungeons lol. There isn’t a single dungeon this season that I log on and am like “Oh, i wanna run this one!” My brother is the same way. We M+ together hard (he tanks, I heal) and neither one of us are feeling it, which is fine. I have other things I can play lol. I got my mount. Gear don’t matter cause TWW will replace it immediately.

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I think the newer dungeons are just over stuffed with mechanics that it isn’t fun to run them.

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The 900k is more the sustained case: if the tank is pulling enough such that the DPS can go over 1 million DPS for said pull, the tank is likely doing a lot more DPS (400k-500k DPS), so the threat logic still applies.

Please consider data on how long it takes for keys to fill with healers, and how many of the healers queueing are actually holy paladins.

Please just fix holy paladins, I beg you.

Oh so you’re nerfing brewmaster because of equinoxmonk who’s already fully kitted out aren’t you. Just say it you cowards those changes are absolutely asinine and someone needs to be held accountable. It’s a throw away season and your team is doing everything possible to make people not want to play. Bravo amazing business plan.

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Which video ? Algethar ?

Really depends on the content you’re talking about. From the sounds of it you guys don’t pvp

BOO don’t nerf monks BOOOO

Buff monks

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Very weak changes. You have months of data from last season with only difference being a few horribly imbalanced tier sets and dungeons. Do math, not dart board.

Finally nerfs to Vengeance but not enough. No nerf to meta healer or DPS?

You do strange nerfs to Brew base kit instead of the meta talents?

I’ll take the Assassination buff but I want more sustained damage.

Finally Affliction buffs but it still will play very poorly.

Where is the other 5 pages?

All buffs pve except for a nerf to monk, blizzard on top of things as always.

Can’t believe ret pallys didn’t get a nerf in pvp.

I dont get it either.

I personally like to play off meta specs and see what I can do with them. Usually only play to KSM and AoTC, so there isnt that super top end gap.

So With Brm, I felt ok last season. It was fun. I had to be a little careful, but I could crank DPS. There was a trade off. I also figured, if anything it is the least played tank. It could get a couple buffs…
But nerfs? And just today I was tanking a Uldaman +4 at 486i. Doing ok. Health is yo-yo-ing a bit. I am not pulling crazy packs. Then I go into a pull, Keg Smash, and before I can hit celestial brew… dead. I was dead in a global. All the mobs casts hit at the same time and did 1.6 mil total. It wasnt even a stagger issue. 100% health to 0. So we wipe, run back, And I have to pre-cast celestial brew on pull and then dampen harm to live… on a +4… at 486i.

And I also was playing Survival Hunter in S3. I was able to do very respectable damage, and the gameplay was fun. But, in S4, the tier set is broken currently and it is a loss of DPS to swap out of my Heroic Tier 3 into S4 Tier gear.

So those are two chars right now that I liked playing, that are benched until most likely TWW.

So I hope they leave Spriest alone… And not to decide if I am going to play Paladin, Blood DK, or Guardian. I just dont want to play VDH right now. And then maybe lock or frost mage or something.

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Where? Just go to warcraftlogs s4 dungeons and take a look into the top 100 dps logs across all tanks. Are BRM dominating these logs? No! VDH are hitting more dps then BRM across all dungeons. Its just 1 single guy (Equinox) who is able top the ladders in 2 single dungeons because of some circumstances where BRM can push crazy numbers thx to uncapped aoe with white tiger statue. That’s it. Where is the point of nerfing baseline dmg of KS and SCK? SCK is a joke already, it needs a buff, not a nerf.

When it comes to tanks Blizzard should care more about balancing utility and survivability rather then dps.

Give BRM something like this! Obviously the numbers should be more like 100% increased armor and 20% more stamina, but you get the point.

Giving VDH more cd on utility sigils doesn’t solve the problem, just excude utility sigils from double sigil talent. Problem solved.

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Sorry, it’s a hunter issue. won’t be fixed before druids get 3 more bear skins

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because dh don’t need a nerf.

I’ve hit 1.65 on assault lol.

Oh yes, they do.

And the Keg Smash nerf. :smirk:

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The dumbest part about Brewmaster damage is that it’s tied to the whole “if you stay in Red Stagger all the time, you do more damage” thing, from stuff like the Dragonfire Brew talent.

Check out any of those high-damage Brewmaster logs, and the tank is spending more time in Red stagger than the others.

They turn Brewmaster parsing into a game of “make things harder for your healer”.

The whole design is stupid, and plenty of Brewmasters have been asking for a long time for Blizzard to GET RID OF IT. In which case they could actually make changes to the spec that make sense for the overwhelming majority who aren’t sitting in Red stagger all the time.

They could have just nerfed the Dragonfire Brew talent damage bonus from heavy stagger. That would have been a targeted nerf that goes after the handful of people the devs are trying to hit.

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Not sure what data you’re using, but it’s wrong or your interpreted it wrong. Super weak changes that honestly don’t do much to help those that need it and bring those OP specs back into line. The fact that almost everyone looked at VDH nerfs and immediately said this won’t change anything should say something about whoever was looking at that data or your data source. This glacial balance pace hurts the game so much it’s not even funny, remember when you guys were going to be more active in balancing? What happened with that? Because it doesn’t fill me with hope for TWW when you can’t balance a few outliers after MONTHS of data and community consensus.

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cries in hard-capped aoe :sob: