Draenei need more Heroes!

Aside from Velen, there’s really no Draenei that really stand out at all. And it’s only gotten far worse since WoD when Maraad died protecting Yrel with no replacement.

And as for Yrel…oye. Not only did she NOT replace Maraad, she’s now a full-on VILLAIN as are pretty much all the AU Draenei because…Mag’har Orcs needed a reason to hate Alliance and become part of the Horde. Ughhh…

The Draenei are now becoming dangerously like the Forsaken used to be: too much faction leader focus and too few heroes, or in this case essentially none. Heck, the Lightforged Draenei have far more heroes than the original Draenei now and that’s just sad.

We need to see individual Draenei stepping up into more prominent leadership roles and being seen actually doing stuff. Why not personalize the individual Light’s Chosen and give them some character instead of just having them stand around looking pretty? How did they become like that?

We could also give new life to important characters like the Triumphirate on Bloodmyst Isle and get them busy again. And even better, create some brand new characters that are designed to become mainstays and remain relevant.

We just need the Draenei to start actually doing something instead of just being solely represented by Velen or otherwise ignored like they don’t exist. I want some Draenei heroes I can bond with and feel good about as a Draenei player, because right now I don’t feel like my race is doing anything.

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With how they are ruining Horde heroes because of some imbalance to the Winning to Honor ratio, I don’t think they have the capacity to put religious zealots in a good light.

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I’m the only hero you need.

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Draenei aren’t religious zealots, but they absolutely made the AU versions of them zealots because apparently making Alliance players WoD experience completely pointless was necessary to give playable Mag’har to the Horde.

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Strange. Considering every non-pacifist Draenei seems to be the righteous ‘For the Light’ type, and the Lightforged Draenei are by a mechanics standpoint wearing a Light-infused suicide vest so they can blow themselves up should they keel over.

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AU Draenei are not zealots at all.

Imagine thinking that all of the Iron Horde’s genocidal sins could be swept under a rug just because an even bigger threat, the Burning Legion, presented itself and wrecked their crap, and then we just happened to encounter the Iron Horde’s leader as a captive, in the Burning Legion’s strongholde.

Grommash’s little “Draenor is free!” moment doesn’t excuse his, or any of the clans under him’s, actions. They were still our enemies. They still tried to conquer our world for craps and giggles, and still genocided the Draenei for fun. They deserved the fate that befell them after we left. Justice was done.

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Justification does not change the methods.

That’s like me saying Sylvanas isn’t evil by annihilating an enemy capital because the enemy still is after our extinction. I mean, she is evil, and I’m all for wiping out the enemy before they wipe us out, it’s still the same evil.

AU Draenor is pretty much word-for-word going on a crusade to either convert everyone to their beliefs or kill them.

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Fight fire with fire. As the Alliance’s history with the Orcish race has shown, if you give them the benefit of doubt, they’ll just start massacring your people later down the line.

It’s not like it was just a faction of Orcs that had taken over the Iron Horde, and who had forced all of the other clans to go to war with the Draenei and Azeroth. It was the entire Orcish population that charged bloodthirsty into battle, except for a single clan, the Frostwolves.

When an entire population is out to wipe out yours, you have to do what you have to, to survive.

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I dunno, is Yrel actually evil though? A lot of the Orcs did kinda screw over the Draenei even in the AU world, you can see why she goes down this route… Given the Alliance kills Orcs all the time, among other people, it just seems like she isnt as bad as we think she is. (But her story ending like that, it’s a bit abrupt).

Yrel never saw the Alliance again, so it’s not like we know if she would kill them or not. I am not even convinced this isn’t another AU of Draenor. Grommash, Yrel, pretty much no one even recongised the Horde player. You know, the champions that helped drive back Gul’Dan and the Burning Legion, who helped them become not a burning wasteland. It felt like they just didn’t know who we were.

Also, Mag’har Orcs, do you really judge an faction from ANOTHER world as a reason to hate the Alliance? You know, the same Orcs we stopped from becoming demon blood drinking and corrupted? Now I think of it, the fact these Orcs don’t seem to realise the Alliance and the Horde had a hand in saving the world, suddenly going with “Alliance is evil” despite Yrel is in another world, in another faction, where our Yrel is I believed confirmed been dead a long time ago.

The writing wasn’t done too well there. It has to be another AU, otherwise you think they would have remembered the Alliance.

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Have you read Sermon of the High Exarch? The last page:

"I call upon you all to ensure that the future promised by the Light Mother is fulfilled. Purge the infection that prevents Draenor’s heart from being whole.

The Light will forge a new future for the orcs… but first, we must save the Mag’har from themselves.

No more division. No more defiance. In the Light, we shall be one."

They even mention ‘Exarch Hellscream’ so they aren’t just killing Orcs for being orcs, they are converting them or only killing them if they resist to join their religious crusade.

Their cause sounds noble in writing, but is horrible in practice. Kind of like a certain individual with an easily identifiable mustache.

Also, Mag’har orcs existed before AU Draenor. Just this version of them includes more clans than just the Mag’har you’d find in Outland. We didn’t have any influence in them not drinking the demon blood, the Outland Mag’har existed before we did. The ones in the AU Draenor were stopped from drinking the demon blood by… Garrosh, the big bad Villain of MoP.

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It’s simply hilarious how Yrel was built up as this important character for an entire expansion, with Maraad even dying in order for her to succeed him, only for her to become a villain who destroys AU Draenor.

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I don’t agree with your opinion on yrel but I do agree with you we need a Draenei hero that is not as old as dirt like Velen or Nobundo

I feel like an oddball for liking the idea of Yrel living up to Xe’ra’s ideals of what it means to fight for the Light. We kind of lost that after The Scarlet Crusade got … whatever happened to it, and The Brotherhood of Light gets flavor dialogue about how their methods get stuff done, methods that The Argent Dawn/Crusade don’t agree with, but not much more than that.

Blood Knights used to be the morally questionable crusader type, not the case anymore.

I hope Yrel returns and joins up with the Alliance to lead the Lightforged because honestly the fantasy of super zealous crusaders is far more interesting than paladins simply as a whole doing the politically/morally correct thing all the time.

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Yeah I would totally prefer Yrel getting things done rather than the alliance playing high moral ground and only winning because the other faction started a civil war and because the writers has to save them. Imagine the alliance fighting a true united and powerful enemy like the Lannister or the evil protross faction from starcraft 2

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What, does Captain Fareeya don’t count? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Apparently she doesn’t because Turalyon is leading the Lightforged instead of her. I don’t agree with it, but glowy boi seems to have taken her spot.

I’m not convinced Yrel is evil, we only heard the mag’hars version of events, and they should not be taken at their word after WoD.

EDIT: also, Akama is technically a draenei! he’s kinda sorta important.

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Well, there is Grand Artificer Romuul, but yeah, I see your point. If only Yrel hadn’t gone off the deep end after WoD, oh well…

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