Draenei/Eredar: The most evil race to ever exist

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This topic is exactly how it sounds in the title. I am making a play to prove how the Draenei/Eredar, are indeed the most destructive, evil race to ever inhabit the Great Dark Beyond. More so than even demons.

So first, lets discuss a brief history of the Eredar.

10’s of thousands of years ago the Eredar, a great and peaceful race inhabited Argus, then a titan world. They took care of that world as it matured and thus were at equilibrium with it and it’s other inhabitants.

Enter Sargeras.

Sargeras promises them great power in exchange for working with him.

A vast majority accept this bargain, turning on their planet and their people. Either forcing them to submit, or killing them if they refuse.

Fast forward many years. And they land on a planet inhabited by a shamanistic race known as Orcs. They have a powerful connection to the elements on this planet, and live in relative peace with it, despite some tribal turbulence.

These exiled ones bring with them a force that would change the fate of two worlds. The Legion.

The Legion follows them to Dranor, where they corrupt a majority of the Orcs, save a few tribes, and sends these fel Orcs onto Azeroth, where the first war erupts.

The Draenei’s first mistake was landing on an inhabited planet knowing full well they were being chased by their brothers and sisters of the Legion. Their second, failing to warn these Orcs that they were being following by a World Killing army, bent on the destruction of every living being in it.

Fast forward again. After the devastation the Legion wrought on Draenor, they travel to a small but VERY important planet called Azeroth, where they befriend an alliance of races that inhabit that planet. They yet again fail to warn the inhabitants of that planet that they are being followed by the Legion.

Fast forward many years, and we end up on the planet Draenor again, freeing it from the corruption of the Iron Horde and The Legion once again.

The Draenei of that planet and the Mag’har Orcs live in peace for many years on that planet.

Until…

A Naruu presents Yrel with a “prophecy”. The Mag’har will destroy you, so you must bound them in light and force them to join you or kill them.

Yrel proceeds to go on a grand crusade of light, committing atrocious acts of murder, enslavement and forced induction, all while commiting cultural genocide of a race they have lived in harmony with for 30 years.

Once again, the promise of power corrupts the Draenei/Eredar.

The Draenei’s one saving grace is a prophet by the name of Velen. Making him and him alone, the exception within the Draenei, and not the rule. He values life and cultural differences. Holding corrupting influences at bay, for a race who has time and again proven they are just as easily corrupted as those they swear are corruptible.

So, why are the Draenei/Eredar more evil than Demons you ask?

It’s simple…CHOICE!

Demons by their very nature of being born of the Twisted Nether, are chaotic by nature, killing indiscriminately. Born of the chaotic energies of the Light and the Void in a realm devastated by this never ending battle between the two.

Draenei/Eredar on the other hand, have chosen to become what they are. The promise of power has been proven too much for this so called “peaceful” race to handle.

And it’s just a matter of time before they do it again.

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I feel personally attacked.

Wind chime intensifies

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I know this is a joke topic but it sounds fun.

Anyway, all races are kinda evil at some point.

PS: If you are getting chased by a gigantic faction of demons and landing on planets to flee once the demons get close and the demons destroy the planet instead of finding a more permanent solution for around 24k years, with multiple planets destroyed because the demons were lead to said planets because they were chasing you, something is wrong. There is plenty of blood in your hands.

It’s like, knowing that a murderer is chasing you and going to areas where there are civilians who get shot because the murderer was trying to shot you. Granted, the murderer is the one who shot and you are one victim as well, but if it was not for you leading him to those people, they would be alive.

Draenei sound selfish at best because of this.

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At least Draenei make good pavement.

That aside, they should have warned the Orcs. They were in Draenor a couple of centuries before the Legion arrived. They had time to broach the subject and ease into the conversation.

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The problem is if you tell the orcs about demons some of them might decide to commune with them dooming the entire world.

Orcs aren’t exactly known for their foresight and reservations about holding power they do not quite understand.

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Forsaken trying to push the attention off themselves again.

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I don’t mind being called evil.

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I get that. They should have developed some way of explaining the situation, though.

It was a gamble either way.

I imagine if the Draenei did explain it all to the Orcs, and the Orcs spurned the Legion, the Legion would have come anyway eventually. To kill the Orcs and Draenei.

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Like you guys doomed Argus?

Isn’t that projecting your own weaknesses onto others?

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Its a doomed if you do or doomed if you don’t.
I don’t think there was a perfect solution.

You got space faring goat people and primitive tribal hut dwellers rife with internal division and mistrust. I don’t think any sort of collaborative communication would have yielded anything besides precipitating the legion’s invasion.

Anything the draenei said could have fallen on deaf ears as it did when Velen tried to explain what Oshu’gun really was.
Neither race had any shot of standing up to them if it was deemed that orcs could not be swayed to their side.

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There is also a distinction to be made between being desperate and fearful for your own life, and willful evil. At most, you can blame the Draenei for being negligent. Which is a crime just about every WoW race is guilty of. If Negligence is evil, then suddenly the most peace loving leaders of the Horde are evil monsters.

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The draenei had around 300 years to attempt to inform the orcs that they were screwed because demons were coming.
They did nothing.

Even if there were little they could do, orcs would, most likely, never turn to fel if the draeneis had better connected with them. Although, I do understand the reasons they didn’t.

I agree, but the problem is the time scale. They never planned anything in all those years? Never had a second plan to hide from the Legion? Never thought about the hundreds of planets that they led the Legion to?
C’mon.

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What exactly could they have done?

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That’s they thing, you don’t know. But instead of warning them and giving them a fighting chance by defending themselves. They were kept in the dark, vulnerable.

Garrosh proved they could turn away from the Legion. But it was also Garrosh’s influence that created the Iron Horde.

What would have been if it had been the Dranei, specifically Velen who had warned them. With Velen as a guide, it could have been a much different outcome.

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It’s worth pointing out that the planet hopping situation was not the plan of the draenei but the naaru. Rise of the Horde has a flashback of Velens where he’s questioning said naaru about that plan, arguing that the draenei should either be making their final stand or to at least be given some information as to what the greater scheme is. The naaru only tell him to keep the faith and don’t give up hope etc… etc… And given that we now know about the Xenadar and the lightforged it wouldn’t even be accurate to say that they were just running away. Those hopping from planet to planet were the ‘civilians’ that needed to be kept safe while the ‘military’ was very much trying to put the murders down.

That said, and to keep the thread somewhat on topic, yes the draenei/eredar flaw has always been their high opinion of themselves. As far as we know they ruled arguable the most advanced and successful civilization ever know to any mortal race in the entire Great Dark. That’s the sort of thing that can give an entire people one hell of an ego. And a big ego can find itself easily twisted to a purpose if you flatter it.

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The Draenei were so in love with themselves that they refused to stop using “that sweet Eredar magic” which drew the Legion to Draenor in the first place. It literally didn’t matter if the canonically peaceful race for some reason turned evil: The Draenei were already summoning the Legion to destroy the world.

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No it couldn’t have… No matter what, Dreanor was doomed to be destroyed. It had no chance to stand against the endless armies of the Legion. Velen knew this, which is why he opted to hide on this seemingly insignificant, backwater planet, with no Titan Soul to draw Sargaras’ eye.

The only reason why Azeroth was able to repell the Legion was because A. The combined might of Dreanor and Azeroth. And B. Defensive measures created by the Titans themselves. Dreanor had neither.

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The orcs of alternate draenor ended up falling to the legions influence in the end anyway. People tend to forget, regardless if the draenei landed on those planets or not, the legion was still going to find them and destroy those planets.

And the orcs, as both Outland and AU Draenor proved, were doomed to fall to the legions influence regardless.

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And people forget that Velen can see the damn future and knew this…

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Only some of them did, not the entire nation. There were those Orc tribes already drifting to the dark side that were more easily corrupted. But there were a few who resisted BOTH the Iron Horde and the Legion.

Laughing Skull and Frostwolf.

Proving, that the Orcs do possess the will to resist corruption.

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