Dracthyr should be scrapped altogether IMO

Geeze… so much hate for my new favorite class that’s mediocre compared to how other Hero classes were back in the day…

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They hate us cause we’re different :dracthyr_cry_animated:

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It’s all jealousy.

They just wish they could soar like you do.

or maybe just me. :dracthyr_cry_animated:

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They don’t know the pain I go through every time I see a Dracthyr fly and I still can’t.

:dracthyr_cry_animated:

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Renewing Blaze is in 100% of builds, and is a direct personal defensive cooldown. I don’t know how you could voluntarily ignore it, considering it’s capable of completely negating anything that doesn’t full-out one shot you. I would, again, challenge you to compare Evoker’s active defensive mitigation buttons to literally any other healer in terms of both quantity, strength, cooldown, and utility. Evoker wins, every time, against all healing classes - period.

In a different reply you cited “mobility is not a defense” - but it is. The ability to cast/move is a massive defensive aspect, because it allows you to actively dodge while maintaining output - something most healers can’t do. When the choice is “Move or die” and the alternative is “Move and everyone else dies.” - being able to “Move, and nobody dies” is a huge defensive layer.

The “IL is a big deal” isn’t a big deal, but is because you’re 0/9 Heroic, 0/9 Mythic, and aren’t running content where you notice the difference in defensive gaps versus other healers. You have a very limited self-only based sample size, with no end-game experience of what you’re talking about as if it’s fact. You, frankly, don’t know what your healer does versus other healers at +25 keys, or in situations where you just flat out have defensive buttons still available while everyone else ran out 2 bursts ago.

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You shall no do such thing.

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I feel the same way about edgy hunters. They should get rid of anything I don’t personally like if we’re being honest.

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:point_up: :point_up: :point_up:

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I’m in, but how do we feel about ret paladins?

Omg ty!

God that grinds my gears when people call them dracthyr.

#evokerforallraces

#dracthyrforallclasses.

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i mean, they made a dragon humanoid race with 0 sexual dimorphism. wich is pepega considering that even the tuskarr have even better models than dracthyr.

that means canonically dracthyr cant fall in love with any of the other humanoid races except them, and their visages are just there to feel accepted, wich later will make them hate their own bodies later in the history because they not only feel less accepted but “female” dracthyr will have it too hard because the other males look pretty much like their buffed body version but them are is heavy disadvantage… i mean kalegos can support my argument.

nah i cant fool anyone, i just hate them because can put them skimpy transmogs without feel disgusted.

I think you’re counting defensives wrong.

Time dilation and hover as well as verdant embrace being counted is laughable.

Might well count Power Word: life and holy word: Serenity for priests.

I do think that evokers enough options for defensives.

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I use it cause it’s useful it’s just not a defensive its a heal.

Monk, Paladin and Druid would at least be competitors and I’d argue Monks have it better then Prevokers possibly Paladin don’t know though as I don’t play it only tried it ages ago.

It’s utility it’s not a defensive it doesn’t reduce or mitigate damage.

Ok? Still wierd that you went looking into my Evoker like they have nothing to do with the discussion.

I have end game experience lol I just haven’t started pushing into high keys or Heroic/Mythic raiding yet :dracthyr_shrug:

Think someone needs a nap tbh :dracthyr_comfy_sip:

Hate to break it to you, but they in fact made it to retail, so it is too late to scrap em. :frowning:

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Yes they are like if Mobility is a defensive Mistweaver monk beats out Prevoker easily.

Says the monk. A crap class from a crap expatiation.

/sigh

Guess I’m getting nerfed once again.

Yowza, that’s a spicy tamale.

munchies popcorn

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I’m actually explicitly NOT counting Time Dilation. The other guy is.

In my original post I denoted specifically self-only damage reduction based abilities.

Please read my reply. Thanks.

Oh right, I mistaken Time of Need with the Time Dilation choice talent.

You are counting hover x2 as well as verdant embrace though.

Time of Need is also suspect since most do not take it.