Dracthyr Druid Forms (idea)

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I don’t main a druid, but this class can be the most fun, I think, for Dracthyr. These are my form ideas from what is in the game and related to the Dragon Isles. The colors obviously are just options I would post images, because there are options, but Blizzard’s forum rules are stupid, so I had to edit this for the 3rd time to give an ugly post which is less appealing to viewers and they’ll have to google search what I’m talking about to get the proper visuals. That’s what a report button is for if someone posted an image against ToS. Report it, & if it’s bad, punishments. But incoming ugly post. :frowning:

Guardian/Bear

The big bullfrogs would be a great “bear” form for this. Honestly, it would be cool to step away from “bear” form and make it “guardian form” so that way the various races can have racially unique forms based on the creatures around their homelands.
Zandalari can be turtles, so this would work for Dracthyr. There’s also the primal bear form, but no thanks.

Feral

The Primal cats we see around the plains and other locations is the only cat form I could think of that stands out as unique to the Dragon Isles.

Balance

I could not find a unique boomkin form, but Zandalari have a unique model, so why not have a feathery Dracthyr form just for Balance?

Resto

Honestly, the Treant form is outdated. There is the Treemouth model that has other color options, some that do not look as corrupt.

Travel Forms

–Ground
There are 2 options I found that work. One are the Kirin that look like Vorquin (Dracthyr racial mounts). However, since that’s already their mount, a more unique form could be the Primal Tallstriders.
–Flight
I think all races have 2 flight forms, slow and fast. There are two versions of of the “wind eagles” that look like Ohn’ara. One doesn’t have the pointy feathers or horns on their heads. Those seem to be smaller in size and could serve as the slow form. Then the one with the horns could be the fast form.
–Swim
Otters.

What are your thoughts? Are there other Dragon Isles creatures I missed that could be better? I’d love to see a concept art of a feathery Dracthyr for Boomkin. I do think that all the races that can be druids should have the option to have forms based on the creatures around their different homelands.

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My thoughts are that a 3 meter tall fire-breathing reptile that can fly turning into a cat or bear is a flat downgrade in melee combat.

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That’s why they have multiple class options, but Dracthyr that are more in tune with the Emerald Dream (through the green dragonflight) have the option to be druids. And if they become druids, then they’d not be breathing fire, which is technically magic, but using other types of magic.

They’re not going from Evokers to Druids. A lot of people, not saying you, think all Dracthyr are Evokers. Evoker is just an option which uses draconic magic. But Dracthyr can train into other forms of magic, arcane/fire/ice, light/void, fire(fel)/shadow/demonic, as well as no magic at all (warrior/hunter/rogue).

So it’s not a downgrade. The Dracthyr that are currently warrior/hunter/mage/rogue/priest/warlock were not evokers prior. Guardian/Feral are different types of melee and/or physical combat from warrior/hunter/rogue.

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Not a fan of stuff turning into stuff that turns into other stuff. It might have worked with Worgen druids if they allowed the worgen to fight in their werewolf form, but they went with the stupid druid forms, no imagination there, so now you have a guy who turns into a wolf that turns into a cat. Dumb. This won’t be much different I guess, you got a lizard(arguably since it looks like result of a night of passion between a monitor lizard and a goose) which turns into a guy who turns into a cat.

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I’m not a fan of Worgen, because they’re not a race. But Worgen should have an update on forms for Worgen Druid. Bear form could be a werebear. The Worgen Druid forms would be creatures related to Humans, and Worgen are Humans. Technically so are Kul Tiran, but different part of the world.

Why are people so negative though? Have some imagination. Instead of what you said about Worgen druids, improve upon them. In Warcraft Universe, if you practice Druidism, you pretty much stop other practices. And with learning Druidism, you learn different abilities for combat. With that comes the unique abilities to that practice.

I know you’re on a lvl 10 so you don’t want to retain anonymity on forums, but that shouldn’t prevent you from having an open mind, and instead of shooting things down, because none of this would really effect you, you could just think of options to improve things?

I’m not a fan of Worgen, but they can be improved to where I’d dislike them less. In Warcraft, anyone can do almost anything. Wasn’t it Cairne who taught the Dwarves how to be Shaman?

You are entitled to not be a fan of this or that, but you also do not have to play those classes. However, you are only 1 out of millions of players, and visual things like this can be very pleasing to most players, and changes like these would attract more.

I’ll be honest with you, not that I wasn’t prior. For years, I regretted playing WoW and would say “If I could travel back in time and punch the jerk who got me into the game…” but if I didn’t have that person and saw a game I could have playable dragons with multiple styles of play, I would have played WoW all on my own. Note, it would have taken me until Dragonflight to start, but Dragons are my thing.

And there were quite a few race changes to Dracthyr when that became available (6 of which were me), so many people liked the option of occasionally being a Dragon-like character. The Soar ability is my most favorite thing about them.

I do respect your opinion that you choose to not play things that shapeshift as part of their race or class, but that is your opinion and while others do share it, more like variety.

And who knows. If Blizzard really gave the different races that can be Druids or that will be Druids, a variety of forms that are unique to their race (along with the option to choose standard forms), you might find something that you really like and may want to try out yourself. We can’t know that we don’t like something if the idea of it has not been presented.

Dracthyr have many options unique to the Dragon Isles which give them different visuals. I think Blizzard could use that and then retroactively do the others.

Dracthyr are also the only race that have could have the option to choose any visage form, so one could be a Dracthyr Hunter with a Dwarf visage form. I’d totally be a Dracthyr Warrior with a Man’ari Draenie visage if I could.

And just to be clear, these are my opinions, and things that I’d like to see, and I know others would agree with me. Most don’t read the forums though. Also, I am autistic, not ashamed of it and not sad about it. But Dragons are really my thing.

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Dracthur… :nauseated_face: druid? Can we just set it on fire?

Ewww…

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I guess my question is, why do they need forms at all? We are dragon… things. Let us claw and bite lol. Worgen should be able too also but alas.

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Exactly, it’s this failure of imagination from the devs. Worgen don’t need a new form since they have all the equipment to do what a cat and a bear can do. Hell, if you must, take that bear form from the mage tower and make it look like a wolf, make it seem like the worgen downed a barrel of roids or something.

Fact is the druid forms work for humanoids, nelfs, absolutley, tauren too, zandalari troll, beautiful forms, but for stuff like worgen and dragon-things, not so much.

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Night Elves aren’t a fan of fire. Remember what happened to your last tree?

Also, if it wasn’t for Ysera, Cenarius would not have access to the Emerald Dream. And it was from Ysera’s power that Dracthyr had access to Dream magic. Just going by lore reasons, Dracthyr make more sense to be Druids than Night Elves who were taught Cenarius who was taught by Ysera.

In Warcraft, Druids have always been about form changing. Going by the lore above, Dracthyr already have a connection, even stronger than all of the non-draconic races, to the Emerald Dream. The other races have to be taught while Dracthyr really just choose to access it.

It would not be visually appealing to have Dracthyr be Druids and not form-change. They’d not be able to be all specs if they were only in visage form. True form could work, but it doesn’t match Druid lore.

Blizzard has already started the process to give Druids to Dracthyr (as well as Paladins, Shaman, and Death Knights. Monks not started yet). The eventuality that this will happen, because they should have had the option to be Druids when the other class options were added, we don’t want them to be a lame copy & paste.

Druids from Vanilla were only Nelf and Tauren, right? Did the forms have various appearances back then? I do recall disappointment in lack of visual diversity. Regardless, Zandalari were given turtles, which was great. The frogs would be the best for Dracthyr Druids. I think the other races that can be Druids should get more unique forms based on their race, such as a werebear for Worgen (I know they have werebears in Skyrim).

But being able to tank as one of those dragon frog things; omg that would be so cool! Those things were already tanky in DF (trash in AV and 2nd boss in HoI). It really is only Druids that do this though as a full-time thing depending on spec.

Yeah, Devs just sort of copy & pasted, but they can fix it now that the technology is more readily available. And I think the Mage Tower idea is great that should be different based on your race. The Zandalari option would be idk, OMG like Tokka from TMNT 2: Secret of the Ooze film!

But as we go by lore, Dracthyr, out of all the races, have the strongest connection to the Emerald Dream based on their design. Other races have to be taught how to be a Druid. And it wouldn’t make sense to be a Druid and not shapeshift. In the eventuality that it happens, give them forms unique to them.

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I don’t think you’re wrong that players rather have cool forms, but I still think dragons are a form of nature that is rather unique already. Compared to a squishy night elf or troll.

Tbh… and I hate this… but if we ever got Druids I feel like they do us dirty and give us those green forms of mounts they already made.

It’s just something they would do. Lol

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Yeah, I had that same thought, but I didn’t bring it up. Vorquin are the racial mount, but from what I can tell from the current Druid forms, none of their ground travel forms have mount versions. Similar sure, but I don’t think you can have a mount that could secretly be a druid. Would be funny though “Congratz, you got super rare mount. Oh wait, it’s actually a druid and it’s rude to ride a druid without consent.”

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Worgen should get Pack form for feral but Blizzard has show time and time again they hate Worgen so no time or effort is ever put into the race.

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What’s Pack form? I’m spacing it. And I agree. They tried with them, but maybe try listening to us to improve them. I’m a lore nerd, so it doesn’t make sense to me why only humans can get the curse, but they’re still human.

I don’t hate my worgen druid. She’s actually my favorite druid, but I play her as Guardian so I don’t often see a true Worgen look. And I use the “visage form” option when not in combat, but again, rarely am I on her and not in bear form.

I only know werebear from Skyrim (Dragonborn DLC), but pack form could be interesting? Is that like when they’re running wild on all fours, but fighting like that?

If that’s what you mean, I’m not a fan of the worgen form that much, so I would prefer to be more bulky like a bear, but it sounds like an improvement and better fits with being worgen.

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Worgen really desperately needs an option to melee with their claws only.
Monk gets a hide weapon xmog.
Give it to our fuzzy friends.
The Greymane/Sylvanas fight was so cool

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Definitely one of the amazing scenes there. Didn’t turn out the way I wanted it to, but I watched all the way through every time I got to that part.

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Pack form is where the Worgen curse originally came from. Pack form was a druid form of a wolf. It was wild and almost uncontrollable due to it being influenced by the rage of Goldrinn. Malfurion forbid it’s use but during the War of the Ancients some druids used it anyway and when they attempted to use the Scythe of Elune to control the form it ended up making the Worgen. Seeing as the Worgen player characters have undergone a ritual to calm the rage of the Worgen why not let the same thing effect the pack form as well.

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They don’t hate them, stop saying that, you sound like children. They are just giving them this annoying bare-minimum effort they give a lot of other stuff in game including classes and races.
I think people should push this more than tails or fighting in human form.

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To this day worgen druids turning into cats remains a bafflingly stupid decision.

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Feral
Take the form of a Drake (google “drake dragon” for image)

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I like that, but we want to stick to what the game has done, by using creatures that already exist. Druids take on the forms of existing creatures. They can do it for combat or to blend in. They also do it to hide as in real world lore such as King Arthur lore, there was a ban against magic. Druids used magic, and had to hide or be persecuted. Druids taking on the forms of other creatures allowed them to hide in plain sight.

While that drake is cool, it obviously stands out and is not currently something in the game. All of the dragons in WoW are intelligent. Proto-drakes are the animal versions. So in order for a Dracthyr to be a druid, their forms have to mimic animals, not intelligent creatures.

And animals do have intelligence, but I’m talking like text books vs “i know how to drink water”.