Dracthyr are a clever allegory for being trans and I am HERE for it

The difference between reality and roleplay fantasy is not arbitrary. I don’t think you know what arbitrary means.

Anyway, for the third time, my point is not that roleplaying is wrong. You can do that if you want, to each their own. My point is that someone who refuses to comply with real facts and someone who refuses to comply with someone else’s play are not equal. I don’t even have a problem with playing along either mind you. I never said I did. I’m just pointing out how 2 different scenarios are, well, different.

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Did I say it wasn’t? I did not. It’s almost like it is fantasy writing that uses the lore. I never once said that tensions between races was a thing of the past. Proudmoore’s son was burnt by red Dragons. Onyxia nearly took Stormwind. But the epithet Greenskin was specifically addressed and declared non-canon.

That is all I am saying.

Once again you are being super disingenuous. If you think that is considered makeup in the same way that guy thinks its makeup then you think Maghar orcs also wear makeup. I was just pointing out that he is likely talking about makeup in our sense not war paint\face paint. Gene simmons is wearing paint at that point, or do you see chicks walking around your city with paint on like that?

Also just because i criticize your post doesnt mean i support the other guy. I am just calling you out on your post comment, i dont know what the other guy said.

Which Proudmoore son is that ?

Glad you call me disingenuous but ignore this.

Also, Make up is face paint. Whether you buy it from Lancome or from Party Experts.

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I believe the one who is now Forsaken. Yes I know. Should be ashes like Varian but… :dracthyr_shrug:

Its because you are disingenuous. You said he was wearing makeup, and when a normal human being says makeup on a person they dont mean full on war paint. I dont know about the other comment at all. So when you tried to win the argument all you did was lump me with the other guy you are arguing with. Just because i call you out doesnt mean i agree with the other guy.

He drowned…

Hence the whole fishing his body out of the water bit.

Gene Simmons in fact wears make up on stage.

Dracthyrs do not though. So “make up” doesn’t make “Visages” look “trans” as the guy you defend was saying.

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Yeah, but in older lore he was incinerated I believe. Seem to recall something to that effect being discussed in “Day of the Dragon”. Maybe his ship going down cooled him off though and he was glad to drown?

Are you confusing Bolvar and Saurfang’s son with the Proudmoore boy ?

You are so disingenuous to think that what gene simmons wears is the same as what most people think of when they say make-up in a game. You are reaching

And once again you are disingenuous again to say i am defending somebody else when i never said i was.

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Eh I’m just here for as cool as I can make it into a black dragon flight from wow classic. Couldn’t care less about the visage. More power to ya.

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Not at all. Saurfang’s son died to Arthas, and Bolvar was given the same toasting, but in Wrath of the Lich King; not during the Second War. The dragons that roasted Proudmoore’s kid were being controlled by the Dragonmaw as I remember.

Again on what.

Are you tellling me you think Visages “look trans” because “they wear makeup” ?

How am I disingenous when Visages don’t even have make up to begin with ?

It’s literally the same thing actually. Plant based pigmentation usually with an adherant agent.

Sorry you paid 300$ for Lancome stuff that’s just a pricey version of the 9$ lipstick they sell at Party City.

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Meanwhile Pelagos… :cry: :+1:

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I literally never said that visages look tans because they wear makeup. Find my comment.

All i said was you are disingenous to think that when most people say makeup they dont mean full on war paint. They are talking about normal makeup IE check bones, jaw, eye etc to make you more attractive.

I have no opinion about the other stupid argument about if you wear makeup you are trans because that is stupid and not true.

THE GUY YOU’RE DEFENDING SAID IT. I told you this 10 times.

Why do you defend that guy and call me disingenuous ?

Sure, why not. I had this as a passing thought in the Evoker starting zone.

Where am i defending him. I think he is wrong.

I never defended him. All i did was call you out for saying that normal people would consider a full white face with black eyes something out of a movie is not considered makeup like what most people consider makeup Its war paint at best. That comment of comparison was disingenuous

So you are a woman that is pretending to be a man… since you are 100% woman and all…

I for one welcome the gay, trans, scaly expansion.