DPS, this is your future with WOTLK's retail LFG system

Oh, 100% this.they also want us to believe that without rdf we wont be able to do anything. They think its impossible to get groups. They think if by some miracle the group forms it will die before peoole finish going to the dungeon. They think you cant do things like quest while looking for a group. They think everyone is gatekeeping them just to gatekeep them. The list goes on.

Wrong again. You have no idea about the actual history of wow do you. There were many features that were designed around an idea that didnt make it into the game at all. Rdf was ine of those features that had been planned for at launch of vanilla. Tbc was dwsigned to have it. Ut didnt make it in. Ever see the portal in stormwind that goes nowhere. It was designed for player housing that never got implemented.

Rdf was always planned to be in and just took longer to imement. If anything, the game was NOT designed to be spamming trade chat. A little common sense would tell you that any game would try to give a tool to help players group. You people that cant think and have mental problems just cant get over the fact that just because a game waa laumched in the state that it was so it must be perfectly intended to be as it was. That is just foolish. Like why do you think they constantly have to patch stuff to fix issues.

Wotlk was designed to have rdf in it. The only part of it that was not designed was the cross realm part. That came later. To solve another problem. Regardless. It was designed to have it from day 1. It didnt make it in until later.

Everything you think is perfect design is rediculous. Oh i bet they ruined the game because they changed the hearh stone time down to 30 minutes. Well it launched with 1 hour and a traditional mmo has a 1 hour timer in it cause thats what it started as therefore that defined traditional. Good lord.

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Thats gonna change. Wait and see.

A grouping system of some type was planned for vanilla. Then they released tbc grouping system, let it play out for a bit and after that decided they wanted something a bit different than what they released in tbc.

But regardless of if it was something they wanted in vanilla, they wanted player housing, they didnt add that to classic now did they? They wanted a lot of things, not all of them made it into game.

And again rdf was part of wotlk for less than half, so having rdf is just as athentic to wotlk design as not having it.

But please keep telling me im wrong when you are trying to chery pick details for your agenda that are not even correct.

Edit: even vanilla had a group finder system through the inkeepers and meeting stones, it was just a garbage system.

Fury warrs maybe will struggle at first with no gear.

Otherwise you’re off your rocker.

Wrath didn’t have RDF until ICC was released.

Are you just making things up?

And that has what to do with the current conversation? lmao

It was a feature of patch 3.3, which is the version we are getting. And before you say it, LFD is a feature, not content like ICC.

No, we’re getting a version based on 3.3.

So
 like guild banks? Which got added later in TBCC?

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You’re confusing RDF with cross realms. They are 2 different things. RDF enhances the game. Makes leveling alts very enjoyable as it breaks up the monotonous quest grind and gives you an opportunity to get decent gear to help level.

Cross realm means you’re grouped with people youve never seen before or will see again. There is no attachment or connection other than this brief encounter. No point in even introducing yourself, no point in even being nice. Epic weapon drops the tank can use? May as well need it to DE or vendor it for some gold.

Didn’t they stop the dungeon addon that people actually used at the start of tbcc?

Sub rogue.

Rdf was cross realm from its release in wotlk

But you see, the best part is that you can’t list for more than one group at a time. So in actuality it will take you 15 min to get rejected that many times. Even better!

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So? Some changes can be made. Cross realm is not necessary nor is it good for the community. In fact if Brian Birmingham had come out and talked about keeping the community strong they planned to do realm only RDF everything would be fine. But he wanted to do away with RDf entirely and implement the retail lfg system

I mean I’m willing to concede on a lot of features on compromising for rdf but cross realm isn’t one of them.

At least make it a toggle for players to choose.

I personally disagree cross realm even killed wow
 many things did but having a bigger player pool for entry level content wasn’t one of them.

But everyone is entitled to their opinions.

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who cares. you having a hard time understanding? please tell me you are not a 12 yr old kid.

I said the game was designed, read that again, designed, to have it in. That means one team was working on one part of the game and they were expecting something to be a part of the game. Another team was working on the thing that the other team DESIGNED the game around. But it never made it into the game. They ran out of time and decided to release the game because they would add it later.

You keep saying that if something was not in the game that it automatically means the game was designed to not have it. YOU ARE WRONG.

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everyone needs a gnome mage

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kind of funny for you to type lmao when you are the one that isn’t bright enough to keep up with the conversation.

No i am not making things up. If you don’t know the history of wow development and what the original devs have spoken about over the years in interviews and podcasts then just shut up and stay out of the conversation.

the portal in stormwind was an example of something that was designed to be in the game, but didn’t make it into the game It has everything to do with the conversation with the guy i was speaking to. Which wasn’t you. so either learn to read or again, shut up and stay out of the conversation.

LFGBB has been active all of TBCC. Maybe a different add-on?

No, it wasnt designed to have it, the feature was a stand alone addition to the game. Saying it was designed to have it would mean the game could not function properly without it. And the game works just fine without it.

You are trying to imply that without rdf wotlk cannot work. For more than half of wotlk it worked just fine without it. And wotlkc, which is not a carbon copy of wotlk, is being designed around the intention of NOT having rdf.

If no rdf is a deal breaker for you then consider this. You just might not be the target audience blizzards is aiming for with its classic games.

My want to self reflect on your own words. Because wotlk wasnt designed to need rdf. Was it an idea that was on the backburner for most of wotlk? Yes, but player homes was the same thing in vanilla (something they wanted to have on launch vut didnt get to it), we didn’t see that added to classic now did we?