DPS let me explain something to you

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I see a lot of people on here upset about long queues, healers not queueing, removing healers, blah blah blah. Whelp I figured since none of you seem to get it I’ll give you a very clear explanation of why healers don’t want to join your RSS queues, here’s a hint it has nothing to do with us being tunneled we are used to it and it’s par for the course.

No, instead it actually has more to do with positive and negative feedback loops. You see games are based around these loops, for you it would be when you line up your CDs and see big numbers on your screen followed by someone dying. That makes you feel good, it’s your reward for executing your rotation properly to kill the target. You are further rewarded for this by watching your rating go up, getting new gear for even higher numbers, etc etc. This type of loop makes you enjoy pvp, but have any of you taken a single second to sit back and look at current arena from the healer perspective? Here I’ll breakdown for you the healer experience.

From the very moment the arena doors open you are slapped with a global nerf. You didn’t do anything to deserve this nerf, but you get it anyway because you decided to play the role you play. Now if you power through this terrible design decision and manage to do what your class is designed to do, IE keep people from dying, you are then rewarded…with a progressive nerf that punishes you for being good at your job, the better you are at your job the more you get nerfed. Now if you manage to endure this nerf and win say 4/2 of your games you get a pathetic amount of rating while looking at the 2/4 DPS who is likely getting just as much as you got.

Now DPS put yourself in the healers shoes. You jump into arena and are immediately slapped with a debuff that nerfs your DPS. Now you power through it but people are dying to quickly do you get a progressively stacking nerf to your damage. You did nothing wrong, you did your job it’s what you are suppose to do and yet you got nerfed for it anyway.

Why don’t healers like arena and RSS? Because it is nothing but one big negative feedback loop for us. The better we are the more the environment punishes us. Is it really a surprise it only attracts a small number of masochists who enjoy looking up at daddy Blizzard and saying “thank you sir may a have another.” Pvp is suppose to be fair, putting players on a even playing field where their skill is rewarded, but healers are playing with a handicap that only gets worse the better they are. Couple this with how screwed up the rating system is and you literally punish us for trying to pvp.

You want us to start queueing? You want us to be a part of your RSS and 3v3 comps? Remove dampening, remove the negative feedback loop that punishes us for our skill, and let us actually compete against you on a fair and balance playing field.

Or just keep enjoying your 30+ minute queues.

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No, I want you to leave.’

no.

We dont negotiate with terrorists here.

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No I know your kind, you spam your pve rotation while ignoring your CC tools and then cry when a game lasts longer than 1 minute. You enjoy exploiting those who don’t get to compete fairly against you because if you had to compete on even ground you could get wrecked.

Enjoy your long queues.

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I do. It gives me time to talk on the forums.

You’ve never met anyone like me.

False, i dont pve. (bears beats battlestar gallactica)

Not true, the only time I shed tears is when I weep for the poor, poor healers who’ve been greatly injusticed by us poor dumb deepeeehhs

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see this is exactly why we don’t need you dirty healers anymore. you guys are entitle and yet you are slowly becoming obsolete. who needs a healer when you can have a juicy hybrid take care of you. healers like you are weighing down our PVP society like leeches, holding PVP Queue HOSTAGE and demanding things nonstop, things that make no sense. Stuff like “Stop training me!” and “MAKE IT FUN FOR ME”. Healing as a concept is just OLD and BACKWARDS.

I legit don’t even know what’s worse healers or the booster elite that ravaged shadowlands anymore.

But you know what, I don’t lose hope, I forsee a future, a pvp world where there are NO MORE HEALERS. It can and it will be reality some day, as we progress as a wow pvp community, the devs will hear our cries and our cries will be answered.

#2v2RSSDPS or #3v3DPSTDM

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Oh yes I am holding you hostage by…checks notes

Wanting a fair and balanced experience where I am not randomly nerfed because of the role I play.

You see where I come from we call that fair play, you are the one taking an issue with it.

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The problem is the dps have self heals which means damage needs to be through the roof to get a kill on someone who has self heals, defensives and a healer with them. So all in all, it comes down to mythic+ ruining every other game mode.

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Bro chill. I’m not interested in playing with them we’re not tryna start a revolution, and we certainly don’t think they’re dirty or backwards. Jesus.

Take it down a notch

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Not really, there is no justifiable reason why DPS have so many survivability CDs, and why some of them are on such low CDs. DPS, and tanks for that matter, should need a healer in pve, just as much as a healer would need them. The whole “make everyone self sufficient” design philosophy, in a game based around group cooperation is what has done more to ruin things than any of the group content itself.

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There’s no reason a disc priest should out-damage his dps partners either, but they can and have. Im down to go back to pure dps if you’re down to go back to pure healing.

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I guess if their partners are bad but yeah that doesn’t happen.

I’m game to go back to where healers only had enough damage for questing and our “offensive” ability was utility/CC/dispel based.

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whats wrong huh? too scared to fight in a real war?

im true pvp loyalists who wants nothing but the best for RSS and the casual arena community, but im starting to take things to the extreme, I’m ready to counter the healers who are boycotting the system, by boycotting the system first.

if thats too extreme for you , then you can go think about it in that 1 hour RSS QUEUE

if your not with us, your against us.

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Not what I said. If we cant keep ourselves alive at all. You cant kill stuff at all.

I started this war. Plunged the forums into chaos.

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You want that game then fine, but you can’t have enough damage to solo us. We can’t defend ourselves, you can’t have enough damage to kill us.

Be honest all you want is a punching bag not fair competition.

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in what world are you soloable now? If a healer tries to fight me over a node I give it to them, because at best it’s a 20-minute kill and at worst I die to a healer. There’s a reason for dampening yk.

Let me be very clear, What I want is to queue for an rss, or a 2s, or a bg and never see a healer but we both know I’m not getting that. The next best thing is to know that if I go for a node I’m not going to get smited in the back.

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In the arena world I stated when the healer is dealing with a 50% debuff to their healing on top of your classes multiple mortal strikes.

Yes it’s because DPS who don’t have a damn clue what those stuns/kicks/fears/sheeps/etc are for and think that if they can just spam their pve DPS rotation into a healer they should die. Fun fact, Burning Crusade Classic didn’t have dampening…and healers, and people they where healing, still died. Almost as if good players don’t need dampening to win games.

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They don’t balance the game around dps who don’t know how to play, and they didn’t put dampening in for them either.

There is one class in the game with a 50% ms and its on a 25 second cooldown with a 6 second duration.

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False, every class has access to a 50% mortal strike in arena, it’s called dampening.

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Before we go any further, I’m going to do you the kindness of assuming this isn’t your main, seeing as it has no pvp stats this season.
For the sake of my curiosity, what class do you main healer in pvp.

Now we’re being silly again.

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Lol…. Yes. Damage in BC and now are totally the same. /s

You clearly don’t understand why damp exists in the first place. We don’t need to psychoanalyze why healers don’t queue. The long queue times are because there’s less healers than dps. The end. There have always been less healers than dps. There’s always been less tanks than dps.

Ironically if you removed your precious dampening the queue times would simply increase dramatically.

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