I have both on my shaman but dont know which to go with first. They both look really, really good.
Anyone thats used either wanna give some input?
Doom Winds by a clear mile.
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Doom Winds is the favourite. I crafted it and I do not regret. It feels very good to drop WF totem and shred faces.
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I also would have preferred Legacy of the Frost Witch for PvP, however Doomwinds outshines it by a ton right now. I dont think Doomwinds should be nerfed, as the Wolves lego also competes with it. I do think Legacy needs a buff though. Maybe buff the damage of the Stormstrike it procs and/or resets shock cds as well. I dont know exactly what it needs, but it needs something.
I did hear that once you get to 226+ ilvl it starts to compete in damage, but I do not know how that has been tested or if that is verifiable.
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When do we get a second legendary to equip?
no telling, theres no confirmation that will even happen, only speculation.
Legacy plays better with ele blast and ele blast plays better than FFW in low uptime single target situations like PvP.
So for single target/low uptime fights, I think legacy may be relatively competitive w/doomwinds for sustained DPS.
Doom Winds w/FFW pulls ahead though for high uptime fights or in AOE.
And Doom Winds is controlled burst that aligns with shamanism and trinket which seems like the biggest differentiator from a PvP perspective.
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If only Doom Winds would drop…I don’t want to run this dungeon ever…again.
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I already made doom winds but I think I’ll be making legacy this coming week to use instead.
Numbers might be lower in parts but the rotation would be so much more fun hitting storm strike constantly. Also I’m sick of wasting doom winds should something happen during a fight.
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I made Witch Doctor Bones… pretty fun. Elemental Spirits does good dmg and they are available almost all the time
I got mine on my second run in a M+3. Try a higher key and it should drop relatively quick.
This is what I keep trying to tell everyone. We need more choice, and not the standard “You have options, but only one real choice due to the tuning of the options” kind of choice.
Legacy of the frost witch needs to reset the cooldown on SS and give it an extra charge, as well as increase it’s damage by over 50%. I can’t understand why it was nerfed into the ground…I was so excited when it was still 100% extra damage. It’s just dog crap now.
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I’m still going to bank my doom winds, eat the lose and make legacy instead. It always has a chance at a buff or doom winds get nerfed which I hope they don’t. Bring others up to its level.
The change in gameplay by having SS up much more frequently will feel better than 12s of burst dps to me.
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I have to agree. Screw the sims, 12 seconds once per minute? meh.
I finally got it to drop and now I’m questioning whether or not I even want it lol.
The rotation with Legacy feels so good. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a solid buff to bring it up to par, because it’s just no performing right now.
I made Wolf Bones, and it’s a lot of fun. On sustain AoE the wolves essentially have zero down time…my only concern is simply that i just dont seem to be able to keep up with our UH DK/Boomkin in M+. I can beat em out on the bosses, but on AoE it’s just not even close.
It sucks we have to choose between fun and utility because I’m just not sure wolves (even talented) give you all that much to use on a legendary.
What’s the balance between the legendaries if you assume doom winds never existed?
It’s always “I want to try this one buuuuuuuuut Doom Winds is better.”
Curious here too. I have Frost Witch and Dr.'s Bones but no Doom Winds yet.
Based on some simming I did using bloodmallet’s new simulationcraft tool, wolf bones is very single target.
Even with elemental spirits, LotFW pulls ahead of bones on AOE. I’m guessing because you generate so much maelstrom in AOE anyway and dogs are single target whereas frost witch gives you more SS and crash spread with that extra maelstrom in AOE.
Frost witch is also the best legendary if you want to play with ele blast and ascendance.
Doom winds with FFW and ascendance is the best overall setup in single target and AOE and has the best burst. So it’s kind of best at everything right now if you are willing to play with FFW and ascendance.
But frost witch is the most flexible and can play relatively well with any build and the value isn’t stuffed into 12 seconds so it seems like it could be good for solo stuff or if you want to play different talent builds.
Frost witch is also fun. Because it fills out the single target rotation. It’s my favorite legendary. I wish they would buff the damage bonus back up a bit so it’s more competitive w/doomwinds. Given that doomwinds will win out in AOE and burst, frost witch should be able to beat it for single target.
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