Dont Nerf Warriors Old Tier Bonuses (holy sh!t)

god damnit

Warrior was looking decent, keen for 2hd to actually be good.

then poof.

Dont go ahead with these latest warrior changes plssssssss. God damn theyre so bad.

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If its real… a lot those changes are just strange. It has to be an April’s Fool joke.

best aprils fools ive ever seen if true

There was another I saw where blizzard had titles for sale on their shop as well BIS gear for $200. LOL

  • Warrior
    • The DPS Tier 1 6-piece Forecaster bonuses now grant 5% of each effect (was 10%)
    • The DPS Tier 2 4-piece bonus now increases the damage of Heroic Strike, Quick Strike, Overpower, and Slam by 10% (was 25%)
    • The DPS Tier 2.5 4-piece bonus now increases damage against targets with both Rend and Deep Wounds by 15% (was 25%)
    • The DPS Tier 4 4-piece bonus no longer grants an additional stack when using a two-handed weapon
    • The DPS Tier 4 6-piece bonus now increases the damage of Whirlwind against targets with Deep Wounds by 100% (was 50%)
    • The Fallen Regality set (Queensfall and Kingsfall) now causes Cleave to gain 25% additional damage for each unused bounce (was 35%)
    • Frenzied Assault now grants 40% attack speed when using a two-handed weapon (was 35%)

https://github.com/wowsims/sod/pull/1429

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That can’t be true. Though I do love what they did to Paladins. LOL /wink

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They nerfed everyone, Paladin got destroyed.

define destroyed when they were simming nearly 60% higher than most specs

They are just trying to make everyone “equal”. Warriir has been mid for a while so we now get to be top mid not bottom mid.

It’s the last teir/content patch if you make paladin and warrior op no one would play other flavour alts.

I think it’ll shake out. T3.5 6pc is actually good now, and stance dance is finally dead and buried. We’re losing dps from the previously projected BiS, but so are other classes, so it hopefully evens out.

If you mean “decent” as in they were blowing almost every other class out of the water, then yeah I guess it’s “decent” lol ret also got much needed tuning.

good thing we ignore what certain hybrids do in PvP, cough shamans, and they get buffed. that class needs to legit get nerfed on SR/Ghost Wolves/Flame Shock damage output/Riptide

Balancing classes around PvE leads to some being busted in PvP.

No they weren’t the absolute bis Sim for warrior was 14.6k with Ashbringer, and that sim goes down to 13.5k with BoI another elusive weapon.

2h Fury bis for phase 8 with Ashbringer is bottom of the barrel, The only thing siming lower is meme spec Shockadin paladins :***D my passion for this game has just died. Thankfully sod is almost over.

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Current sims have 2h fury with ashbringer dead last bud. we are cooked.

it wont be dead after the nerf, i’ll still rock it & clap with it.

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People still looking at 60s sims when 90% of the playerbase can’t kill naxx bosses that fast. We lost gnomer helm for a 5% as buff on smf and every one of our old tier bonuses being gutted.

The reality of this is, unless the entire raid is cleave we’re rinsed. Even IF the entire raid is cleave, we’re limited in how much cleaving we can actually do (low target caps) so we’d need another perfect storm for that to work out in our favor. AND we’d still need WCL to not ignore all cleave to prevent degen parse strats otherwise everyone treats the raid as ST and warriors are god awful.

Warrior’s dps is being essentially gatekept behind perfect storm scenario after perfect storm scenario. The overwhelming majority of our dps locked behind a laundry list of requirements, windfury, full world buffs, full consumes, other classes debuffing for us (iea and cor), on top of extremely short boss fights (60s or less), and we’re still mid. They could let us provide windfury to ourselves and provide our own armor debuffs (since we’re being balanced around having it all anyway) and it would be MORE TOLERABLE to be this bad as a dps because atleast I can control my fate everywhere. Instead of “oh our feral is out this week guess I do 50% less dps”, “oh our rogue is out this week, no IEA, guess I’ll do 2k less dps”.

On the other end you have boomies/mages/hunters/ret doing the same dps in 60s with no falloff at 3 minutes, or 5 minutes, or 10 minutes. With far LESS reliance on other classes.

My 99’s in Naxx right now, are still me doing less dps in 60s than a fire mage played at 80th percentile. And he can keep doing his 80th percentile dps the whole night. While after 60s I will have fallen off a cliff into an abyss I can never climb back out of.