Don't Let #nochangers Ruin TBC

If you thought faction imbalance was bad in Vanilla Classic, wait until BEs in TBC Classic and Seal of Blood. Alliance will once again have instant queues, leading to the same toxic gameplay we see now, and Horde will almost never get to play BGs. The only saving grace would be arena, and only barely.

At least back when TBC launched, the factions were roughly equally balanced, maybe a little Alliance favored, so losing some Ally to Horde in TBC didn’t hurt anything. But in this new era the scales are already massively tipped in Horde’s favor and is about to get A LOT worse if racials are #nochanged.

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I agree. Tone down the belf aoe silence into an interrupt and give alliance seal of blood. Also, do not hand out free level 58s, that allows for faction balance to get out of hand quickly. Allow people to transfer their classic toon to tbc. It helps anchor people into their original faction.

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I didn’t. I don’t think there is any real imbalance problem, nor any issues with it.

The servers that have the most imbalance at the moment, Stalagg, Skeram, Heartseeker, are a result of player choice, but also give a perspective on the game that anyone can experience if they wish to do so.

And… so what? Whether it’s true or not that there will be more Horde than Alliance overall in BC (which seems to be the reverse of Classic), what difference will that make other than potentially having more server diversity to choose from and experience?

you don’t get anything cool from random bgs in tbc. you have to afk in arena for purples. XD the thing is people are salty because belf pallies are better than ally pallies. i am still not over it myself and hate tbc because i was a dwarf pally since i started playing. so forget tbc and forget belf pallies!!!

You can get the previous season’s gear plus you get the offset pieces from honor. You can get them more quickly than most people will obtain current season arena gear.

Then you’re just straight up wrong. Idk what else to tell you.

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That such a great point! So well explained, how could I possibly have thought otherwise…

You do know that Hardiness is nerfed in TBC, right?

Will of the Forsaken was nerfed in Vanilla, 1.6.

Also, Perception is VERY powerful in Arenas.

But…that BE AOE Silence is pretty great!

there are equal amounts of horde and alliance playing. but more horde want to pvp. that’s a player issue, not something blizz can fix.

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It’s honestly not particularly an issue. As the only real result is:

  • increased BG queue times for Horde
  • more/less world pvp (depending on realm - e.g. Stalagg horde are likely not engaging in much wpvp, but then who is anyway?)
  • people who would like to complain about things complain about faction balance

bgs killed wpvp and as long as there’s any sort of rated pvp at all in any version of wow most people won’t give a crap about wpvp. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Hate to tell you but they are rougly balanced now. The problem has ALWAYS been that people see the horde as the PvP faction. Classic just amped that to 12 . Meanwhile the more PvE min Max groups went alliance because … well it is actually better to be alliance for PvE.

the gnome racial for casters. the human racial for melee. dwarves have the gun racial. the alliance in general has crappy pvp racials but dear lord the fact that pallies even exist make alliance the better pve faction.

Horde can enjoy there 1hr + queues on BG"s where battlegrounds ACTUALLY matter in TBC. Insta queues for days for Ally side

i will be alliance in tbc classic the same as i am in classic, only i’ll be able to be a shaman! man i hate that i can’t be a shaman in classic on alliance. ik ik no changes. but wtb dwarf shaman.

No changes

#nochanges

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Just about all of you are missing the point about why Horde will be overpopulated in TBC. a few of you are close though. the main thing that causes horde to overpopulate in TBC is the fact that paladins bring a MASSIVE amount of utility to the table for Horde, but Shaman bring legit 2 things to the table for Alliance (wf and bloodlust).

Thus there’s a massive explosion of belf paladins hordeside because of how much they bring to a raid group that horde didn’t have in classic. THE ONLY WAY THIS COULD BE COUNTERACTED would be if somehow Horde had access to blessings and the healing throughput of a paladin without actually having paladins. which isn’t possible.

It isn’t racials, it isn’t ‘omg nerf seal of bluudz’. its paladins in general and how beneficial they are to horde raids versus what shaman bring to alliance raids.

this is because paladin is the master class.

There will be more shamans per raid than paladins in tbc

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