Don't Kid Yourself, SL Is the Same as BfA

I agree with you. The gearing through LFR takes way more effort and more time people don’t care about being there or upsetting some randoms they never have to deal with again.
Raiding in an organized group takes a bunch less effort over time because everyone knows what they’re doing and a full clear can be 1.5 maybe 2hrs.

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Yeah glad someone understands what I was trying to say. Thank you.

Who knows for sure? Maybe they’ll make leveling more fun? Maybe M+ will no longer be a toxic cesspool?

Give Blizz a chance to redeem themselves. Yes, their quality, customer service and vision went down the toilet with BfA but things can change.

Sorry but you’re just spouting nonsense. You go ahead and try Mythic raiding while the raid is current. It takes MORE effort to down Mythic raid bosses. I’ve wiped close to 200 times on Mythic Mythrax in season 1 of BfA (on my DK), and there are a lot of bosses that will take a lot of pulls in order to get through and there’s no Determination stacks to help you.

Yeah, looks like SL is the biggest pass/yikes for me so far.

Shadowlands is the most geriatric expansion yet, seemingly made for only small amounts of gameplay in any given day. It’s straight up player-repellant.

Classic just came out, and look how successful that was…

Just repeat that same gameplay loop, just with Mythics and World Quests thrown into the mix. No mission tables, no soulbinds/covenants/borrowed power, no BS. But nah, gotta keep people around with more systems to tangle players up in.

I still don’t give a s*** about Torghast and never will; I cannot understand how an ‘infinite’ dungeon doesn’t sound like a TERRIBLE IDEA to everyone, literally will be stale by the end of the month. I just wonder who went: “A limitless trash grind? That’s MY kind of game!”

Blizzard doesn’t make good games anymore. No, they only know how to make butt money. Overwatch 2, Warcraft Reforged, Diablo Immortal, etc.

That’s all these forums are for the most part. Don’t let it impact your view of the game or a majority of the player base.

I haven’t played BFA, but from what I have seen it wasn’t anything that would have interested me. BUT! I think SL has some redeemable qualities. Mainly that we get out High Elves :heart_eyes:

I don’t care about the content, I just want to get my HE going ASAP

Spend more than 30 seconds on these forums and tell me M+ wont be a toxic cesspool lol.

Currently, absolutely 100% it is and exacerbated by that IO addon. We’re better than this.

Ok I like all of that stuff. Your point? Ill like SL just like I liked BFA.

just because someone doesnt invite you to their group doesn’t mean its a toxic cesspool. Yikes…

Depends on why they didn’t invite you. If you didn’t invite someone because they weren’t geared for a 20 when you’re only doing a 15, then yes, you are one, no matter how you try and rationalize it.