Don't give em an inch Blizz

Is this pro or anti rdf? Not trolling just want to know whether to like it or not.

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I am a proud member of the pro-RDF camp, sir.

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you have the right to your opinion and I don’t judge you for it :slight_smile:

I won’t lie… I’m on the fence on this one as well… He has me thrown off by his trash talk of Vashj’ir… That was the coolest zone in the expansion.

These are systems, and according to you, don’t matter. If, as you said, systems that were a part of the game can be removed without, “tarnishing” the expansion’s legacy, then it shouldn’t matter what kind of systems are in play when you do the content.

Nothing is stopping you from experiencing the, “legacy” of Wrath by doing the content on retail.

My entire point is that it’s an arbitrary line that anyone can argue is the start of the, “retailization” of WoW.

In reality, it’s a system that fixes some of the major problems we’ve been facing throughout Classic.

Those systems very much do matter as the game was designed specifically around those while they were current. Old world content is not balanced, nor is it built around new systems. The game was never built around RDF, nor will the game suddenly become unplayable as you seem to make it sound.

it’s ok to disagree too.

Using the anti-Rdf crowds logic, I personally feel the BoA gear was pretty bad for the game. It made half the items in the game useless, until xmog came out, and even then, half of them are still ugly so they are still only good for disenchanting instead of actually using. Plus the gear made people solo 5 mobs at a time, regardless of level. If blizzard wants to truly go down this path, they should ban boa gear too.

What a strange, arbitrary line. You argue that a system that was in Wrath being removed doesn’t matter because removing systems doesn’t change the expansion, but then argue that having other systems be authentic actually matters.

The grouping was never a major part of the game. It was only one small aspect, and it was increasingly worse for the average player as the patch content stagnated - fewer players looking for groups, even fewer looking for the same dungeons that others needed - this meant that alts and especially newer players had an increasingly worse time trying to get into groups. Add on with the advent of gearscore, and many players were stonewalled prior to RDF.

I’m not arguing it will make it unplayable. If you think I am, quote me. I’m arguing that the system that was created (and, they wanted to implement much earlier) to solve the very same problems Classic is facing now not being added will provide a worse experience for the average player.

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you know, it’s ok not to like the direction a game is taking. I played a hell lot of ESO a while back, but started not liking where they were bringing the game, so I stopped playing. No one is forcing you to play this… people seem so mad about that RDF decision, as if they were forced to play WoW. If this makes you so mad, maybe just go play something that will make you happy?

I disagree with Blizzard’s stance, as does it seems the majority of players - but Blizzard doesn’t seem to care.

it is their product… if you don’t like it don’t buy it.

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I love this rehashed line. Where is your “vast majority” btw? Not the same 15 of us on either side on the forums discussing this topic constantly?

The problem seems to have gone over your head. The issue is that players have been expecting an authentic experience, and now suddenly Blizzard is dramatically changing Wrath - through raid buffs (which are awful, health buffs to make a boring boss fight take longer are not fun), potential dungeon changes, removing a core system, among other things… to please who?

Why is it that authenticity was important until Wrath?

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From what I can tell, there’s like 5 anti-RFD people on the entire internet right now. Yes this is sarcasm, but it’s kinda not lol.

Guess what, I disagree with a lot of decisions made by Walmart, so I do not shop there. I find other alternatives. You can do the same with Blizzard if you want!

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Every single test has shown pro-RDF is the majority. Blizzard refuses to do anything official because that would very clearly show that the majority want it - otherwise, why are they so afraid of it? It’s either that, or they simply don’t care what the playerbase wants (which is a common problem with Blizzard), and are doing what they - sorry, the lead dev as many devs on his team want RDF - wants.

All we can do is wait and see for when it actually launches - the initial rush should be fine, but as P1 stagnates players are going to get more and more vocal.

I mean if you’re suggesting players go play private servers for an authentic experience, I don’t think Blizzard will appreciate that.

Becasue Wrath is the true beginning of the integration of “modern QOL features”, such as RDF. And there is an important amount of players who do not like this direction that the game took at this specific moment in time, and it seems the dev agree with that and are trying to change it.