Accepted the fact that I have to run CoS to get the items because I keep facing people who all have them. No it’s not why i’m so low rated, but I believe it’s a contributing factor.
Ran it, gloves dropped for PvE DPS War, he refused to give them to me because he wanted to DE them…
We then went to final boss and wiped. Group disbanded, 2 and a half hours wasted and NOTHING to show for it.
For the first time since I started playing, i’m letting my sub run out, and am only coming back in 8.2, and if it’s just as bad, i’m uninstalling until next xpac.
PvP is a fkn disaster no matter what toon I play, RMX is running rampant, hero cleave is, PvE gear is, no class balance, i’m done. PvP is too neglected and it’s all I play this game for.
Miserable experience for someone who doesn’t FOTM reroll, or who doesn’t like spending weeks dying over and over again and not get anything from it. It’s not worth it for me to play a part of the game I hate to be able to play in a part of the game I like.
Say it’s cause i’m bad, I don’t really care, i’ve always been bad and have never felt this disgusted with the game as it is now.
10 days left on sub, probably not even going to bother logging in.
My sentiments exactly. If some of the Essences that are implemented in 8.2 go live, like 100% up time on Meta, Im done as well. Plenty of games I can spend my time on. If their metrics show upward trend, with the systems in place and coming in 8.2, I will not be part of that trend sad to say.
I only hate pve gear now because all these hardstuck challengers keep posting about it as if it absolves them from being bad players.
If youre stuck 2k, maybe youre pretty good but your comp is bad.
If youre stuck 2200, maybe youre really good and playing a bad comp well or a good comp poorly.
if youre stuck 2400, you can prob start complaining about losing SOLELY due to things like being hardcountered or cheesed by pve gear because you and your team are doing most things 99% correctly and such extraneous factors are the only variables that resulted in a loss.
If youre stuck at challenger, you are what is bad and you can absolutely improve in numerous significant ways.
You don’t have to have a subscription to play on the PTR. My sub ran out last week and I’ve just been playing 8.2 on the PTR so I don’t have to play it when it goes live. Nothing’s changed yet except for PvE tank changes and Essences are just as broken as Azerite traits. I’m expecting PvP to get even worse in 8.2.
The point is that players can have a LARGE advantage over others because of gear, not skill. Any competitive game/sport is based on skill… templates/normalization should be a thing (again) because I shouldn’t have 40k more health than another healer/dps. That’s just not fair and no matter how well they play my stats are going to outperform them completely.
Logged in today to give playing some games another chance.
Rogue Mage Druid
Rogue Mage Pally
Rogue Mage Priest
Hero Cleave with Rdruid, DK had polearm
Hero Cleave with Rsham, DK had gloves, no polearm
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand done.
That’s enough until next patch, not gonna support this ridiculous trash anymore. Will vote for change with my wallet. Not gonna keep giving devs a salary if they don’t deserve it.
Sad trend really, I’ve seen so many that feel the same, myself included. This truly is the worst state PvP has been in, and the worst part is they’re not doing a thing about it.
Seems to be the end for me as well my friend. Even if 8.2 brings about changes, classic will be out by then and I’ll be focused on that. I’ve reached the end of the line on retail.
Funniest part is all the carebears swore WoW is a PvE first, PvP last game. Well, now look. PvP is in the toilet and BFA will undoubtedly go down as a flop and the worst expansion in the history of the game.
You know whats funny? I can’t even log on to my character for more than 10 minutes to do anything in this game let alone PvP. Its not just the imbalance in PvP that infuriates me, but its class design overall. Literally the moment I log on to the game, I’m automatically forced to log off after 10 minutes due to how boring every activity in the game is. Leveling is horrible, arenas are just pathetic, WPvP has been thrown in the dumpster, and not one class feels enjoyable to play. I honestly don’t see the game getting better in any way unless they prioritize on remodeling elements of class design.
I know many advocate the input of PvP vendors, templates, and various other in-game facets to help the game become more fun. But lets be honest here, even if those were added, it would surely help improve participation a bit, but it will not improve gameplay. There are classes like ferals, sub rogues, and aff locks that don’t even exist on ladder at a competitive scene. This is just due to horrible balancing and class design. From the way I see it if class design was seriously considered and examined in depth, the game would eventually be more appealing to a lot of the players.
This is true. But lack of Vendors add to the problem. They are both problems. There are people that only PvP that wouldnt play the game because they currently have to PvE to get gear, regardless of class design. They are both major problems with the game. For me, I cant see how we can level 10 levels at the beginning to gain… nothing. NOTHING??? We only lost power. Its unreal.