doing timewalking ulduar and man i am amazed. That company almost 14 years ago did AMAZING AMAZING RAIDS. what happened? why dont we get the same kind of raids/raid design nowadays? that raid was really stellar. what happened?
do wee need to forget TWW like we did with shadowlands? DF was a mediocre fest also
I’ll admit, Ulduar was fantastic. Easily in my top 3 raids of all time.
However ICC, Ruby Sanctum (if you even consider it a raid) and remake Naxxramas were all extremely miserable raids in my personal opinion.
And honestly, I’ve been enjoying Nerub’ar Palace so far. It’s been a good time.
All those devs are long gone.
Imagination, creativity, and developer engagement were all thrown to the wayside for player engagement dopamine cycles in the name of profit-driven gameplay loops.
looks at Ulduar
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looks at Ulduar
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Ulduar has some cool/interesting parts (the vehicle section, the train ride, the Yoggy and Alganon fights) but for the most part it’s a slog, so glad we don’t have 15 boss raids anymore.
So you didn’t do any of the raids, got it.
I like Ulduar, don’t get me wrong. It’s a raid I personally find pretty enjoyable BUT it shouldn’t have been the timewalking raid. Hands down that should have gone to ICC, as ICC is what immediately comes to mind when I think of Wrath.
It also could have been a GREAT way to introduce a frostmourne transmog into the game for people that have Shadowmourne ala the TBC blades of azzinoth transmog unlock by killing timewalking Illidan.
They’re saving that for Wrath Remix
If you played WotLK Classic you’d see how extremely not stellar and just plain boring that raid was after just one week.
its only that way because you are either in one of two boats, 1) the ones who did it to death when it was new, so you are already jaded regardless how impressive it might actually be. 2) the one who was hyped to experience the thing people kept talking up but it never lives up to the expectations.
It has some impressive parts but yes the hype was just way overblown.
They take too freaking long. For kids that remember it, they grew up and have jobs that compete for their time. Only streamers have the time since they can job WoW. I was in my mid 30s. Now I’m just too old to commit.
Now, that’s not to say it can’t be done at all. But they’d have to cut it up into bite-size pieces for people that can’t do content that goes over an hour to 90 mins. New generation players just don’t have the desire to commit to long, epic raids.
Me, I just don’t do any of that anymore… Delves freaking changed the game for me… I love content I can leave my keyboard for and afk for a bit if I have to. If I’m going to spend 4 hours on something, I’d rather it be an in-person pencil and paper RPG.
And then for the people in dalaran, the suffering expanded.
Citizens of Dalaran! raise you eyes to skies…
The first weeks were okay. That boss needed time to stew for a few people.
And then the speech. and the speech. and the speech. and the speech.
It took me and my Classic guild roughly 3 weeks to figure out that we’re slogging through all those boring, boring encounters twice a week just for a shot at 1 item per hardmode.
And then from 2 raids it went down to 1 with extreme roster issues because neither the gameplay or the rewards could carry it anymore.
It was funny when the did #somechange to squish the gear to be similar to TOGC. Since in the first run ulduar fell off the radar for many I am told in OG wrath.
and people still ran TOGC over ulduar. Less walking simulator, more raid was more to some people’s tastes.
See I would think that to. But then I think of pugs trying to do some of the fights…
TOGC was at least quick, I think our fastest Ulduar took bit below 2 hours while TOGC was like 30 minutes and done.
Except when players looted the glaives off Illidan, they looked like the ones he uses.
There’s no weapon model usable by players that looks like Frostmourne. If you’re implying they give a weapon from ICC the same treatment they gave DHs with the glaives, it would have to be Shadowmourne xmog, not Frostmourne.
ToGC was one of my favorite raid tiers. Ulduar on release was bugged like crazy and a total wipe fest, never had time for that waste of a tier.
As someone who had mog farm that raid, it definitely is a slog.
Classic can never (in my opinion) live up to how good the raids were then. The game as a whole was a different beast. PCs were still sub optimal, some people had dial-up internet, the players were not as good, YouTube and guides were not as wide spread.
The biggest issue with classic is that it nostalgia can only take you do far.
One word:
Defile.