Nah. I just want Classic but with new dungeons, zones and raids added in the future basically.
No need for all the QoL changes, LFR, cross-realm, increased level cap, nerf of older content, not even flying mounts.
I’m fine with TBC though, I just prefer original new content.
No idea why you would think Classic+ would feel like Retail.
No idea why you wouldn’t.
You seem to be asking for Shadowlands.
“Ask and you shall receive,” I suppose.
It wouldn’t be different at all but you would have classic talents and different gear options. Like set gear for prot paly, feral and tank druids, melee dps shaman. Same content tuned to 60 with different talent trees. It would change some mechanics and a total change for itemization.
If it’s functionally the same, then why do it?
It was incredibly lazy when they did it with naxx in Lich King, and I can’t believe people are asking for this cop out now.
Wouldn’t it be better to get a new raid?
Cataclysm?
Best first raid tier of any expansion in WoW history, imo.
What does Cataclysm have to do with Karazhan?
And your question isn’t on par with your previous question.
Imagine all the content and itemization options. Caverns of time could be released, BRM, etc.
It is. 
Classic+ is literally Retail’s history, and present, and future.
Ok, I’m imagining it.
The gear budget inflation makes the game unplayable because naxx gear is already pretty bad, and this is either on par with or better. Without the natural reset of an expansion’s levels, newcomers are at such a disadvantage and get 1 shot by (now) everything.
I’ve heard all the keep us at 60 pitches. They aren’t great ideas.
Not if you just tune gear to 60. The biggest flaw of classic is itemization. All hybrids are forced to heal, all warr set bonuses are prot. The more options in gear the more adaptive your playstyle can be.
I don’t understand what your point is, would you care to clarify?
In Shadowlands, the max level is 60 (I don’t personally think that “max level” being a particular number matters, but I’m pretty good at math, and programming).
You mean this should be carried through? Because it doesn’t seem to be in Classic+ (i.e. Retail. Are you claiming that hybrids should be forced into healing roles in raid settings?).
So the stats on the gear from lvl 70 would be too high so it gets tuned to equivalent or slightly better than top gear. Or Kara could be a catch up raid like ZG slightly lower than Naxx and allow better itemization to clear Naxx. You could also release tbc CoT as 5 mans. My point was keeping the set bonuses as is allows greater flexibility outside of current restrictions.
I don’t understand why some players like him are so intent on forcing hybrid tax and people with a heal to heal. It’s very one dimensional gameplay. And as you said, in Classic+ players figured out how to make hybrids work.
Not that he said that, but he does have a point. Tier is very one dimensional as well and the gear designed for them is intent on healing (or tanking for warriors).
You seem to be talking about BC.
What about Classic+, i.e. Shadowlands?
I think it’s a bit early to be labeling Shadowlands as Classic+. While the level cap is the same, that isn’t enough to suggest it’s actually going to be the namesake.
Yeah. Hybrids being nudged into healing roles is definitely something that we can observe in Classic (moreso than in Classic+ [i.e. Retail at any stage past Vanilla]).
Fair. Let’s label BC as Classic+ then.
Here is a new one for you. Drop us to 60 cap every set of 3.
Vanilla: 60
TBC: 70
Wrath: 80
Cata: 60
MoP: 70
WoD: 80
Legion: 60
BFA: 70
Shadowlands: 80
It also kind of sets up a pattern… of everytime we return to azeroth in some form we get smacked back to 60.
It’s not important. The number is arbitrary. It truly doesn’t matter in any meaningful sense.