I’ve been looking all over for an answer but couldn’t find anything concrete so I’m hoping my fellow pvpers can shed some light
With the possibility of changing to a WOD style system, does this mean we will actually be able to spend the conquest we have on higher tiered gear or will the mandatory rated requirement still apply ?
I mean, WOD was a great system imo but it does very little if I’m unable to spend my conquest to upgrade gear.
I’ll still be fighting players with gear 20-30 ilvls above my own.
In WoD you could technically get max PvP gear in random BGs yeah, but it took a long time. Rated accelerated that process since it gave much more conquest per hour. Which is I think the most fair way of things.
The conquest gear was not tiered, so the base conquest in WoD was the only conquest gear there was.
If we had WoD gearing right now, it would look something like this:
Honor gear is 220 (in PVP) and 190 in PVE.
Conquest gear is 233 (in PVP) and 203 in PVE.
No rating gates, or upgrading, or tiers. Just honor gear you buy with honor, and conquest gear you buy with conquest.
WoD gearing was fast too. 7-8 hours for a full honor set (220 ilvl). Compare that to today where one of my alts is ilvl 194 after about 50 hours at max level.
If they do this right, they will make a lot of PVPrs happy.
It is nothing like legion templates, other than ilvl being closer together top to bottom.
You still got to earn gear in WoD and it still has stats on it that you get to choose from a vendor. Legion did not have that at all, there was no PVP gear and no matter what, your gear had to exactly the same secondary stat distribution as everyone else who played that spec in PVP.
The hopeful response is that yes it would… my fear is that they will leave us with our crappy rating based gear but just add the pvp scaling to it so that PVE players no longer want it and complain about having to do pvp.
ideally they just copy WoD and get it over with. we could end up with a monstrosity though, that doesn’t solve OUR problems. its possible that they simply remove the PVE incentive to make the PVE players happy, and leave us with massive gear gap and rating break points.
hopefully they just admit that their legion-SL experiment failed and revert back to WoD or MoP fully and leave us alone.
Think you’re confused here. The template system that people talk about is what we had in legion where your character scaled to a specific preset stat template and all that mattered on your gear was your ilvl. everything was squished so you could basically play naked if you wanted to. Smaller difference between naked and max ilvl than 197 and 226 right now.
BFA had the gear scaling but not the stat template, but was kinda the same system.
I get what you’re saying, but when you say template with reference to wow gear, it means specifically what we had in legion. That is what blizz called it. You cant really use the word generically like that without confusing people.
rating is not required for gear, BIS pvp gear for all as long as they put in the time
rated gets your conquest points much much faster than random bg, I can’t remember if you could even cap your conquest per week without rated
it was set around 10 wins, so everyone did rated to get their 10 wins and then quit arena til the next week unless they liked arena and wanted to grind rating for cosmetic rewards.
The ladder was absolutely packed because it was the BIS pvp gear which everyone wanted if they enjoyed pvp at all, with a massive bottom half of the ladder unlike now.
you’ll be fighting peeps in the same gear level roughly, as peeps with higher rating only got the gear slightly faster. There wasn’t an upgrade system, you just bought the BIS pieces straight off, no rating requirement.
now lets talk about alts and starting mid season, in WoD there was a catchup so you could grind out conquest to catch you guy up on the BIS, and they gave you a 50% boost to the points per match up to a certain point.
You don’t have to worry about the gear delta nearly as much as you can get your honor set within a day or two, maybe a week and it is a small gap intentionally. So you conquest may be boosting to 233 and your honor gear may be boosting to 220 something.
WoD solved every single pain you are experiencing right now
The easy way to farm then was through Ashran mainly. Then at a certain level, Juno into rated. With your mix of randoms of course.
But rated was different then, compared to now as well. MW was awesome for heals, and could push more with Dlocks/sprießt. Now it seems more boomies are considered. Rsham was number one target as well, they are meta currently.
Nonetheless, will be interested how it goes, and that’s IF they do it.
No, two different things. What people are asking for is not the legion template system. The way gear worked in WoD was completely different. This is getting difficult to explain, but i can assure you that you are confused about how each system worked. Keep reading into them if you want to know the difference.
