Or is Cdev making it up as they go, its really hard to tell?
If I hear one more thing about Sylvanas evil sinister plan I’m going to flip my entire wig. I feel like this is a lot of hype just to see Sylvanas twirl her mustache even more, like how much twirling can that thing actually do?
Can we get some compelling and intriguing lore concepts again? Feel free to speculate and to give suggestions?
There is no doubt she is up to something. She arrested Baine in front of other leaders, then knew people were going to rescue him and more. I personally think the visions of both Vol’jin and the Spiritwalker were created by someone in league with her.
I’m sure she does. Complaints aside, these things are planned out years in advance. I just very much doubt that it’s going to be as mind-blowingly awesome as the devs think it’s going to be.
Whatever it is I’m sure it’ll make the Horde look stupider than ever.
I know her plan
Step 1: start a massive war
Step 2: ???
Step 3: rule the world unopposed
I’d wager her plan is probably fairly simple conceptually; likely tying into both her quest for immortality AND her still unknown deal with Heyla. I do expect some something major to come from it. I also wonder if the so far valueless deal with Bwon that the Horde PC is currently under isn’t a teaser of whats to come with her?
It LOT of the structural issues with BfA’s story could be easily explained by a narrative started at its conclusion, then the writers working their way back to try to fill in the “steps” or “gaps” (rather haphazardly by all indications). As such, I do expect the story to become a bit more cohesive as the story draws nearer to its finale … as again its the “End” that is likely the part Blizz considered most important (I’d wager because it directly sets up a future expansion); as well as Sylvie’s plan.
Definitely she has one but it’s beyond dumb.
It will be amazing when my fan made most dumb ending to Sylvanas gets surpassed by the canon dumb ending.
My bet is on:
-Sylvanas was always a servant of the Void Lords and started a war for the lulz-
-But Alleria’s inner void voice was warning her about Sylvanas!
-Yes uhm… It was a DIFFERENT and FRIENDLY SUPER AWESOME void voice… Guys please, Sylvanas was ALWAYS evil! Did you not play the game? (laughs)
Sylvanas would do anything to escape the Shadowlands… Remember N’Zoth’s words in Crucible of Storms?
“The Light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all.”
Sylvanas would want to strike a bargain with the Light in order to escape the horror that is the Shadowlands! She may already be Lightbound for all we know!
Wouldn’t we know though? Lightbound supposedly look a lot different to traditional Undead.
The Lightforged Calia looked like Undead Calia with Glowing Blue Eyes and no decay… Basically very similar to Sylvanas…
Glowing Yellow Eyes is obviously not an indication of Lightbound status… If the Light deemed Red Eyes as suitable for it’s plans then it would let Sylvanas keep it.
The Light didn’t have Yrel be outwardly Lightbound when we rescued the Mag’har from her despite her mentally acting Lightbound… The Naaru knows how to use subtlety for their plans.
The only way we’d find out if Sylvanas is Lightbound is if she pull out the Tendrils of Light instead of the usual Tendrils of Death(not to be mistaken for Shadow/Void) out of her back and she’d probably only reveal them at the right moment in order to taunt Alleria for thinking she is the Shadow abomination and not Alleria herself.
Honestly the rescuing part is most salient about this. There’s literally no other reason for her to have staged her little arrest scene where she did. Baine wasn’t in Stormsong beforehand, she wasn’t in Stormsong beforehand, and none of the other Horde racial leaders were there either. Absent a motive of wanting the Alliance to find out so they would subsequently monitor Baine’s disposition more closely and act to prevent his execution, the very idea of gathering all those important people - along with herself - at what amounted to the front lines of a shaky Horde foothold in hostile territory for her little meeting/reveal would be completely unwarranted and moronic.
Everything about the arrest itself could have been done in Orgrimmar, Zandalar, or any number of other places under firm Horde control. She had to have picked that spot - and in so doing risked death or capture by any potentially unforeseen Alliance assault - because she wanted the Alliance’s covert agents to see it happen.
Of course, everyone within the story itself is too much of an imbecile to realize this despite how painfully obvious it is.
She didn’t just stage the arrest scene either. She made one hell of a performance of raising and then torturing Derek Proudmoore in a SUPER public way; almost as if she were pushing for a response from someone conscientious like Baine. She then allows for Derek’s rescue, seemingly sacrificing/endangering many Forsaken to sell that charade. She apparently did this again with Baine’s rescue mission.
Honestly, the collateral damage of her actions seem too severe to not be deliberate; and a LOT of collateral seems to come at her deliberately sacrificing her own troops (and especially the Forsaken). Considering this, I just hope that whatever game she’s playing doesn’t result in her being validated as some savior of Azeroth (saving the world from some secret threat that she has no reason not to tell others of).
I honestly suspect this is all to ultimately get everyone focused on Thunderbluff, which she will send a decoy force to attack while she attacks her true goal: Stormwind.
From the beginning of BFA we were told her ultimate prize was Stormwind, or rather its very large corpse count which she could build an army of totally-free-willed-honest-guys! undead.
She needed a way to clear out Stormwind of most of it’s military assets. I bet anything Anduin will bring almost his full force to defend Thunderbluff. This will prove to be a red herring by Sylvanas, who will instead use the opportunity to wipe Stormwind off the face of the map.
She pretty much knows they wuill try to break Baine out, yet only sends a paltry group of 5 to stop them. Pure silliness. She let him go, it was all part of the plan.
You know, it could almost be worth it if she pulled this off, and then as the first new hosts of undead rose while Stormwind burned, they started turning against her and she found out that this whole time she thought she was being so clever, she was really just being played herself and fulfilling a ploy by her own val’kyr to create a new Scourge.
After all, unlike Sylvanas, the Scourge’s val’kyr chose to be what they are. Many of them even outright labored to prove themselves to the Lich King and earn the privilege of becoming his val’kyr. They may not have wanted to remain forever shackled to an inactive Lich King like Bolvar, but it’s perhaps worth remembering that under Arthas they served by choice. They’re formerly living vrykul who believed the Scourge was a great thing that could save their people from the frailties of the flesh.
When it comes right down to it, pact or no pact, we’ve been given no reason to actually think the Forsaken val’kyr share any of Sylvanas’ own personal motives. When it comes right down to it, their own attitudes as Scourge-loyal vrykul may have not changed at all since they were serving Arthas.
Yes but blizzard is going to pull it out of nowhere or write other characters to be stupid for it to work rofl. It’s why Sylvannas is so smart. Half the time they’ll dumb down another character to make her storyline progress.
Who acted out of character?
Nah probably the writers are still thinking in the twist and famous plan of her they advertised. Ironically I can think all will end in a total dissapointment
Xal’atath’s dagger is empty, and we know it can be used to trap beings of great Void power inside. Right now it’s basically an empty battery, that’s why Nathanos had it in the cutscene, it was leading him to the next most powerful Void being nearby, Azshara and/or N’zoth.
N’zoth will probably be around next expansion, but Azshara? Her soul being bound to the dagger would make it just as powerful, if not more powerful, a weapon as before, and Sylvanas would be immune to its whispers and tricks. Sylvanas gets a superweapon to use against her enemies, and Azshara is defeated, all in one swoop.
In terms of the Helya bargain… who wants to bet the Kvaldir are also immune to Void whispers? I’ll bet that’s how she knew the Void was stirring up in the first place, remember in Cata the Kvaldir were in opposition to Azshara.
Either way, we’re not going to be killing Sylvanas this xpac. She either reveals she’s the greatest champion we have against the Void, and stays Warchief, or she betrays the Horde and makes her own NPC faction.