if I pre pop meta before a M+ key and then meta again on first pack of the dungeon will the up time stack?
Same thing goes with popping meta during the demonic window?
I am not sure if I am wasting uptime by using meta early.
Thanks,
Gil
I think you can only get up to 30% more, so like ~9 seconds added to meta.
If you’re popping meta before the key goes in, you should be saving meta for the next important pack or boss since you can go into meta frequently from eye beam.
On raids, you’ll typically want to pop eye beam in your opening rotation before going to meta, as you will get a extra time in your meta. If you’re timing eyebeam correctly, and you have bloodlust going, you can about a minute of meta time (usually 2-4 eye beams during or right before meta.
meta time does stack
yup.
eye beam
meta
eye beam
now ya got 46 seconds of demon form. eye beam will be back up before it eneds so add another 8.
54 seconds of non stop demon form
juicy
edit: yeah like boltaction said. make sure u dont waste ur fury and take advantage of the blade dance reset also.
so really its kinda more like
eye beam
blade dance
meta
eye beam
blade dance
*u can throw in some chaos strikes in between depending on how much fury u have, but this varies based on spec and proc chance of demon blades etc)
depends kinda on ur spec, if u run the talent that makes eye beam give fury it will change a bit etc.
Thanks guys.
I was thinking about this last night in Motherlode. My group went for the strat of pulling three packs right off the bat with lust. So I pre popped meta before the key and my rotation went:
eye beam
Death sweep
meta
death sweep
eye beam
then into normal rotation
I wasnt sure if I should let the original meta timer run out before hitting meta again.
Thanks yall.
once you get chaotic transformation make sure to use a good amount of your fury before popping meta eye beam so that you don’t waste all that fury when you do your 2nd eye beam
You only need to burn it off before the 2nd Eye Beam, not before the meta usage. My standard opener with CT is pre-pull Immo at 2-3 seconds → Fel Rush in → Demon’s Bite → Eye Beam → Blade Dance → Meta → Blade Dance → Chaos Strike x3 (with Thirsting Blades, that puts you at a minimum of 40 fury, more with refunds) → Eye Beam → Blade Dance. Blade Dance has CD exactly 6 GCDs long, so 3x CS + Eye Beam (duration = 2 GCDs) is the perfect number to fit between Blade Dances.
being honest here whats your deal dude? I usually am ok with lil corrections here and there but you constantly do this. Obviously I was referring to meta eye beam. here ill correct It for you. but even if I wasn’t the gist of what I was saying was don’t double eye beam as you will waste all your fury.
Im beginning to think you have a beef with me due to other posts somewhere. is this the only toon you post on? or are you just unable to allow lil inconsistencies in text prompts to go un-edited? seriously…
I stated a correction because your original statement could lead people wrong. You were explicitly advocating for delaying Meta to burn off fury, despite the fact that it’s Eye Beam that requires delay, and that you should be timing Meta based on your Blade Dance casts, not based on your fury.
Like, I’m not just being pedantic here. If you’re going to issue advice, and that advice is wrong, wrong enough to actually lead people to make non-trivial mistakes in their gameplay, I am going to correct you. I’m sorry that you feel like that’s a personal attack. It really isn’t. I’m not focusing on you specifically at all (the only person I currently have a bit of an active beef with is eye-beam-dc-roguey-poo).
And yes, this is the only toon I actively post on. You can see historical posts from my hunter Kaedys, but nearly all of those were during beta before I’d abandoned MM due to the state they left the spec in.
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my advice wasn’t wrong. you just read it wrong. tell me how delaying your meta eye beam is wrong? I stated I simply forgot to put the eye beam in. but delaying popping your meta beam is essentially what you go into in your explanation.
and even without the eye beam edit my advice wasn’t of the nature to be wrong standing on its own. delaying popping meta a few gcds after your first eye beam hurts absolutely nothing so long as you pop it before your eye beam meta expires. so my advice was vague and had an editing error in it. but it wasn’t wrong and wouldn’t lead anyone down any bad path.
your advice on here is great im not here to argue that. but your beginning to come off as a know it all when you correct something like that. And you have done this to me on more then one occasion. my intent in my post was obvious and the advice was essentially don’t pop 2 eye beams in a row and waste all that fury.
My advice was a reply to
and
Because you advised delaying meta itself, which is categorically wrong and in most cases a DPS loss. You want to back-to-back Blade Dance as early as possible, so meta goes on CD as early as possible and so the GCDs line up properly between Blade Dance. Your original advice also could have caused a newer player reading it to do something like Eye Beam → Blade Dance → Chaos Strike x2 → Meta → Eye Beam and completely waste the Blade Dance reset, which would have been a much more significant DPS loss, hence the correction.
Honestly, it’s nothing personal, Bolt, and I hope you didn’t take it as that. I wasn’t hunting you down seeking to correct you, and you were correct to point out that the original advice to immediately lead into the second Eye Beam was incorrect. I was just pointing out a small flaw in your advice. Your edit corrects that, and that’s all I was going for.
Not to someone new to the class, it isn’t. They would legitimately have started to delay casting even meta, which is incorrect.
as long as it isn’t personal as I said im totally fine with small corrections. and maybe im just seeing you correcting me often because, well, im wrong often lol. so less you being a know it all and more me speaking a lil to fast about things im a lil under educated on. but I understand your correction and now understand where my initial post could lead new dh’s down the wrong tread.
I can vouch, they have corrected me quite a few times as well 
I will say in general I see Xaedys as one of the more active and knowledgeable DH’s on these forums.
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Less about you being wrong often and more about me 1) being on here way more than I should be, and 2) being perhaps a bit too pedantic about things at times.
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yea im on here way too much as well… gotten to the point im on threads about wow more then im on wow itself lol