From what I’ve played so far, I am loving condemn. This is the most fun I’ve had with arms for years. However, my fear is that it might be little too good right now and, like in the past, Blizz might nerf it with a mallet instead of a scalpel.
I was wondering what my fellow warriors thoughts were.
Do you think condemn warrants a nerf? If so, ideally, how would you like them to go about it?
No, the rest of the kit doesn’t hold up anywhere near enough to put warriors on good DPS list except for rampage as fury. It has negatives as well to it , like fury having a 6s cd(reduced by haste) and cant be used when boss or mob is between 79%-36% HP.
That does not make sense.
It’s already been adjusted. It’s not overly strong. I don’t see why it would be nerfed.
No it does not need a nerf. Necro needs a buff.
Condemn is all we got bruh! Don’t you suggest even touching it!
No. That would be like giving a homeless man a Ferrari, then swapping it for a Ford Taurus a month later
No, not at all. It’s a strong ability, but so are Angel Spear and Fairy Shockwave. Sorry Necrolords, but your banner is about as powerful as the Confederate one (I do hope it gets buffed, I’m on your side).
It’s not the strongest for raw damage in dungeons, at least on the limited data we have right now, though it keeps up well. It’s the strongest in raid, but the other two keep up pretty well there too. I know nothing of pvp, but none of the pvp focused people seem to prefer it, though it performs alright if you picked it for other reasons anyway.
If anything I think it’s a sign of good design that an ability feels OP when it’s not.
I would much rather see the others buffed instead of anything being nerfed. I think kryian is pretty close though but just requires a bit more complex rotation as arms compared to ven just mostly spamming condemn.
I’d rather see Banner buffed as well. I don’t think we’ll see a nerf to Condemn. It’s a good ability, it feels good to press. Damage good but it’s not over the top. I think the reason people think it’s too good, is how much it changes the play style. It shakes up the priority of the spec, making it feel more like you’re spamming the one attack.
But who knows, Blizzard has done some weird things before.
If anything, it needs a buff for fury. The arms version are GREATLY out performing the fury version, and by greatly I mean the fury 1 is a wet noodle compared.
Agreed. Either the survivability bonus or damage portions…its really not a very fun ability.
I mostly use it as an extra “rallying cry” in pvp or dungeons.
I’ve been using banner during lust.
No, it’s not.
What planet are you on…?
Warrior rotations are brain dead easy no matter what covenant you choose tho.
It comes across that way because Arms casts execute way more often than Fury. In Fury’s current design the main purpose of it is to generate way more rage than outside execute phase, the damage on top is just extra (hence the cooldown). And for the record, at least in my experience, Fury Condemn deals within 10% of the damage of Arms Condemn.
First, I play Fury for PvE.
Second, I have been favoring Condemn since my early Alpha testing because when played optimally it’s effective in single target and AoE/Cleave scenarios. From what I’ve seen watching others or my own Details!, this ability is our highest damage output by % at this point in time, Rampage coming in second.
In my opinion it sits in a good spot and isn’t OP or under tuned. You’d get plenty of hits off on any challenging boss before it gets to 85% and when specced optimally 35% is great. In dungeon situations it’s very easy to get tons of Condemns off when tab targeting and making proper targeting calls.
Condemn allows me to be competitive in overall output even against some of the current top tier specs. Most importantly though, it adds to the Fury priority in a positive way strictly talking about how it feels, whereas other Covenant abilities are just something you wait for the CD to press.
Had a chuckle at that line, good show!
Condemn is fine. Both DPS specs need buffs and are below average compared to most classes and specs. Bring up the specs as a whole and Condemn will be a lot less if Warrior’s overall damage.
It’s a lot of dps. I mean as it was eloquently called, “Fairy Shockwave” can hit like a truck too, but i feel it needs a shorter CD.
I think condemn is fine where its at but the other abilities need to be buffed some and then the class is good to go.
For pvp the spear seems to be the most favored. PvE Night fae is quite strong, Id argue outside of raiding Condemn is the third best choice. It offers a great gameplay loop though, thats why I picked it.