do world quests and delves? renown? world bosses? there is do many things you can do to acquire gear before hopping on the forums and crying because you can’t comprehend how to gear your character. Join a guild? Play with people? Idk man its giving skill issue to me
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deserved, so long shrimp
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In season 3 and season 4 of DF, i.e. roughly the past year before TWW dropped, it was.
Yep. This was a bad change by Blizzard where they increased the requirement for heroic dungeons but didn’t increase normal dungeon loot to go with it. Several people have complained about this. Some have come to defend the small indie company that Blizzard is by pretending it’s okay. Blizzard has ignored those who want to enjoy the game.
Don’t worry: without special tokens, most crafted gear is a lower ilvl than normal dungeons drop. Only way this changes is either (a) if you’re making spark-specific gear (which is timegated) or (b) if you dump a bunch of gold to have an enchanter make you a crest token.
Correct. This part isn’t really a problem in and of itself. It only becomes one because of the problems above.
Quite the contrary: by the end of the expansion they have a ton of ways to catch up that makes the game significantly better than it is right now.
That’s one camp of thought. Another is that it’s going to drive returning players to quit.
It is an absolute travesty that it takes an extra 2-3 hours to grind a few extra stones and upgrade (assuming you don’t already have enough from leveling).
It doesn’t take much effort to get the gear and upgrades necessary to start heroics - I think the last couple alts I leveled took maybe an extra half a day at most… and that’s while I’m afk 80% of the time watching youtube.
I just started tww 3-4 day ago after a long break. 567 is easy. I have not done a raid or heroic dungeon yet and my first DK is over 567 and i cleared Delves up to tier 8 solo so far. A little pvp and world quest and luck on drops im at 570+
Its not grindy compared to some expansions.
It is incredibly easier to level and play retail for so many reasons…btw I reported this for trolling… Anywho, you can simply either gain gear by just buying your way into heroics on the AH there’s 564 gear that’s BoE. You also have gear at your fingertips from World Quests. You also have crafting professions that can create 540 gear. And delves are one of the best and easiest ways to gain gear by simply gaining key fragments and entering a bountiful delve. They even buffed brand healing like crazy. My Outlaw rogue, who’s item level is 547, did a +8 in delves and was rewarded with 603 gear. This expansion is the easiest expansion you could ever experience to gear quickly.
well, better do some world quests then. those will eventually get to 571. unless those are too much for you as well. in which case, yea, you should probably quit
nvr quit bros wow is forevr
Subscription = less you use it = more money for company
Exactly like a gym
Enjoy!!
Go out in a work order for a crafted piece or two. Don’t make it yourself if your way back or don’t like the professions.
Why would they mess with the normal to heroic pipeline for gear? It feels natural and makes sense in every way.
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I’ve got 5 toons to 80 geared up enough to do heroic dungeons and like 13 toons in the mid 70s. As far as I can tell normal dungeons are just for leveling if you don’t want to just quest. Getting to 567 was easy. I just targeted world quests with the gear upgrades and purchased on the ah. There was plenty of cheap level 80 greens. Between ah world quest/boss and weekly’s they had the Ilvl to get into heroics and lfr no problem.
I do agree though normal should be an option to progress to heroic.
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"To a returning player its obvious this is all in an effort to make you play more. "
“I just want to play the game.”
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You don’t need top gear to play, especially since you seem focused on solo.
They want permanent wrath classic era players to quit that is for sure.
No of course they don’t want you to quit. They just expect you to buy a bunch of WoW tokens and a level boost to get caught up and as soon as you find out you are still too far behind even after all that, then you end up quitting.
My Mage is ilvl 576 which wasn’t that hard to get to at all. I just upgraded gear and sought out higher ilvl gear from quests
The only way to move forward with this game is to go all in on the rating system. M+ IO isn’t enough and we already know people are gonna gate keep, might as well guide it.
We need a layered global rating system in this game going forward. We need a dungeon rating that’s separate from IO. We need a raid score rating and we need a profession rating. Period, end of discussion.
The Generic Dungeon Rating will rate all dungeons outside of M+. It will go off of amount of times cleared and will go off how many abilities uses you have in the dungeons. The more abilities you use, the higher your score.
The entire purpose of the Generic Dungeon Rating is to allow you to step foot in M+. If people see you have a high generic score, you should be able to get into keys quicker.
Raid score would be based off of how many bosses you’ve killed and your ability usage.
Profession score is just profession score. You only get the highest score from being able to craft the highest tier things. People can hover over you and easily see the score.
Then add something in the game that looks at logs and penalizes your score if you try and cheat the ability usage tracker.
“Oh no, people will just log into a key and spam random abilities to up their score!!!” Nope, the log tracker will prevent this.
Until we get advanced tracking in this game, it’s never going to be better.
Retail is considerably more grindy than classic and the leveling is even more worthless than a private server with 3x experience boosters. WoW is no longer a RPG, and Im seriously doubting its really a MMO. its just a hub queue simulator…
The main story line after the leveling campaign takes about an hour or two to complete depending on how much you focus on it. I do believe you’ll get some upgrades from there. Kill any rare you see while doing this to increase the amount of gear you’ll get during that time and then once you’re done with it go do some delves, kill rares and complete the weekly quests especially the one in Hollowfall. You’ll start getting a bunch of gear that can be upgraded in town using Valorstones that you grinded up running all the open world content that should be a big boost to your Ilvl also check out a guide for your bis equipment and go get whatever crafted pieces you can afford to get. Fear not the grind become it’s master.
The longer you play, the better Blizz looks. I agree with all of your points. 