Does being locked for loot in a raid adversely affect others? Does me being locked for loot reduce the amount of loot dropped in a raid?
No.
Yes.
Many people will tell you the answer to both questions is yes, but they are incorrect. The issue is with the wording of the second question. Loot drops are never reduced, they are added. If you have 20 unlocked players in the raid, they each contribute a 20% chance at loot, for a total of 4 dropped items. If you add 10 locked players to the raid, nothing has changed. There is still a 20% chance for each unlocked person, resulting in 4 dropped items, winnable only by the 20 unlocked players. Adding more players didnât change anything at all.
If the group of 30 was all unlocked, instead of split 20/10, there would be 2 more items dropping, but with 10 more people all getting an opportunity to roll, keeping the 20% chance for everyone.
There is some nuance for organized groups, in that the more items drop, the greater the chance of getting a heavily desired or rare item, but generally speaking, no, there is no difference to the raid in bringing a locked or unlocked person.
The facts, however, will not stop the majority of people from believing that it is harmful to their loot chances to bring locked players. Some of them may even jump into this thread and try to incorrectly state the case here.
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you dont generate âyour lootâ, so if youâre above the dps median, no, if youâre below the dps median, yes.
If youâre there instead of someone, yes.
If youâre just an additional person, no.
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Fundamentally, the adverse effect comes from the fact that you are no longer eligible to trade your loot to someone or to receive someone elsesâ traded lootâŚ
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so they do adversely affect the raid? hello? It means that a personâs slot is a waste as they can be replaced with someone that can affect the loot pool. No need to make it a semantics issue, most people are wondering if they would reduce the amount of loot would drop if they are in lockout compared to someone that isnt.
Thats one person that could have their loot added to the pool and one person that could have had traded their equipment to other people that would need it. This also depends entirely on the group size as well, its more observable if youâre a ten man raid where lockouts are more detrimental to the loot pool
Annoying that this was at the top of google results
No, that isnât what I said. Hello?
That assumes that it is a full 30 person raid and there is an unlocked person available to join. That is a very specific niche example, and not at all representative of the vast majority of raid groups.
Itâs not a semantics issue.
âCompared to someone that isnâtâ is a modifier that youâre adding that doesnât apply in most circumstances.
If you have 15 unlocked people in the raid, you can add another locked person and have absolutely zero effect on the loot. You can, in fact, add 15 more locked people and have zero effect on the loot.
There is an embarrassingly large number of people who think that adding locked people to their raid hurts their loot chances, and that isnât accurate unless you are replacing an unlocked person to get them in the raid.
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