Does Arthas deserve a "happy" ending?

They are all “memories” and have an azerite glow to them. So they are likely memories of Azeroth(or whoever the Radiant Voice truly is). Honestly, I half expect it is actually Azeroth writing the Chronicles books.

Look, we are likely to get Garrosh 2.0 when we deal with the Draenor draenei again considering Grom’s “son” joined Yrel. As for Arthas, if ever we return to the Shadowlands he is certainly someone they could talk about again.

Possibly, hopefully there’s some more direct events that lead into the main meat of the expansion story too.

I mean it’s possible, and staff changes can change the opinions of the story team. Just saying that part of those two endings seemed to be a writing them out for whatever reason. Just an impression I got, not a hard and fast statement of what they’re doing.

Memory Arthas is going to get sent to the good afterlife when we kill it since it’s just a newborn innocent. Meanwhile we’re all going to get another entry in the sin stones for killing him for bags and catchup loot

I doubt think the memories even have souls, they are prob just projections of azeroths memories

leave it to Zerde alone that he weeps for Arthas not getting redeemed. I swear I am glad most alliance fans quit the forum at this point.

And the Horde is angry their heroes mostly died with no sastifying ending of their arcs yet you don’t see us lamenting about it every day at all the time. Accept this and move on.

Yet another day you claimed that Alliance players bribe forum mods.

I think you need to take your daily dose of meds tbh.

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Hey, if soul destroying genociders get redeem, so should arthas. Barring that they should both have there souls destroyed.

Because your leaders were villains. But Sylvanas didnt get kill off and now gets the chancd to redeem herself. Heck, with what we now know of the Shadowlands most of those souls are now probably in their deserved afterlife(after a stint in Revendreth)

So was Arthas.

Sylvanas is the best deal with it. Sylvanas is too cool to die and deserves the world since all bad things she did happened after Arthas stole her soul.

The day Blizzard stops feeding the alliance fanservice cheese the story might recover from a decade of slander that was clearly anti Horde conspiracy.

Depends on your point of view.

From the point of view of a Republican, all Democrats are unpatriotic scum. We tend to tribalize our perceptions. Part of that is the intended psychology of the game’s design… they wanted the faction players to hate each other.

You know, after everything that happened in BFA, I’m actually not sure if he had a solid grasp of that title anymore before being disenchanted. Not to mention there’s someone that killed planets chilling in Revendreath.

Sins of the Daughter.

Nobody is saying Sylvanas is an innocent babe.

They’re saying that Arthas, being the one who killed her, split her soul, raised her, tortured her, bound her and forced her to slay her kin until she could break free, is also not innocent when it comes to what she’s done, because he broke her into what she is.

And given his rap sheet is far, far longer than hers outside of that, the idea that he’s less guilty than her is just silly

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He is innocent of it because he isn’t the one either performing the actions or enforcing his will upon another to make them perform said actions.

Arthas is only responsible for the actions Sylvanas performed while she was under his compulsion as a member of the Scourge. When she became her own person, when she regained her personal agency and could make decisions for herself, she and she alone became responsible for all of her actions thereafter regardless of how benevolent or malicious they may have been.

He isn’t guilty of her actions at all, because they were hers, carried out of her own will, conducted in accord with her own desires. Of her chosen actions he is completely clean, and all that he could be considered guilty of is putting her in a bad mental place which she failed to escape.

It’s like saying Guts is to blame for Griffith choosing to assault the Princess.
Griffith was put into a bad state of mind when Guts left, but it’s not his fault that Griffith chose to do what he did.

“The man who broke her will and shattered who she was as a person on a mental and spiritual level is perfectly innocent” is a hell of a hill to die on, I tell you what.

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Innocent of her actions, yeah.
No idea why you and others are so intent upon blaming one person for the actions of another over which they have no power, because to honestly think that one would have to have a very low opinion of said individual’s personal agency.

Why are people talking like the only possibilities are “completely innocent” and “completely guilty”? Responsibility can come in degrees.

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And more than one person can be responsible for something. You can have both Sylv guilty for doing the thing, and Arthas guilty for shaping her into what she is through his abuses of her.

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This.
/10characters

And we can keep this chain going with Ner’zhul being responsible for Arthas, and Kil’jaeden responsible for Ner’zhul and then Sargeras being responsible for Kil’jaeden until we all just blame the void lords.

I mean, things cause other things and saying someone is responsible for the effects their actions have doesn’t necessarily absolve anyone else of guilt (excluding stuff like full blown mind control).

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