I’m out doing PVP battlegrounds so I can start doing arenas, I mainly play alliance but about 90% of the time, the team is trash. Either the players don’t know what they are doing or something is going on causing the game to be completely unbalanced.
Is there any real PVP players anymore? I’m just now getting back and like to PVP again but its hard to get real players to play the game, even when I’m in a really populated server.
Permission to bring up premades in this thread?
Go ahead but I doubt it will make a difference. I’m using my main to respond to you.
Oh, just that premades increase the frequency of imbalanced games.
Depending on bg/faction/time, a pug player might be going against more premades than normal, and experiencing more one-sided games.
For example:
Today has been a crappy day on Alliance side epics. I’m capped on Horde side but need 2 wins to cap my Alliance.
Was in a WG where we won SR and the pugs started pushing towers – but ignored Horde doing the one-wall Main door trick from the other side. Didn’t matter how many times I called out “defend or this is over in 2 minutes” – some guy kept saying to ignore it and push towers. It was over in 2 minutes.
Was in an AV where they wanted to rush boss, but I was tank and made them take towers. Horde still hadn’t pulled at 2 towers so we burned 3 towers and pulled. Easy peasy. Except a Monk went in and stood there full healing the boss. I was tanking and kept saying “kill the monk”. Pugs ignored the monk and beat on the 100% health boss with the monk just standing right there in the middle of them.
There’s nothing you can do, it’s very frustrating. That’s why premades exist. I’m about to just go back to premades myself.
I think I did 4-5 epics on Alliance side today and it was just sad. I got so frustrated I led two of them, and it was like Bad News Bears.
What’s “correct”, exactly?
Probably means play like you have at least a rudimentary grasp of how epics work.
Epics are a mixed bag but I feel like Alliance have no issue winning regular random BGs most of the time. Might be dependent on the time you play, though.
I have had the opposite experience . I capped my Ally shaman with CQ already . I still haven’t on Horde. Yesterday was a rough night, so many strong ally teams in the night
Killing everything 
most aliance bgs are fillled with players that dont care about the objectives that are used to win the bg.
Hence they think that fighting is the key to winning, or they jsut dont care about the win.
this is also why id love to have RATED epic bgs.
this allows the premades people complain about to go head to head with other premades people are complaining about.
It would be neat to gain pvp rating, transmogs, and conquest in this manner.
let the epic bg ratings begin; and lets see just which of the current premades is actually good.
Last week I capped Alliance first and Horde was rough. This week it’s opposite, for me at least. Don’t remember what time I played last week. I was trying to quit the game forever but failing at it.
Not to sound like i’m one-upping you… but i feel like i did this for YEARS… Alliance communities are just so nice to have now. They aren’t perfect - no communities are, but it’s nice to play with people who want to try and work together. Same for the ones on horde side. 
I do not want rated epic BGs because they would then start to be filled with min-maxers who want only certain classes/spec/gear/everything. It would start to spill over into random epic BGs.
The beauty of casual epic BGs is EVERYONE is welcome regardless of all of the above. Most times - except for when the heaviest min-max premades queue - either team has an equal chance to win depending on their overall team spirit and understanding of strategy.
Alliance has a lot of premades. If you want to win, just join a community or discord.
Not too many truly quit.
So essentially you were the alchy-grump with a heart of gold?! 
Fel-mint cookies fresh out of the oven if you want to be a dirty, dirty horde syncher!
Amazing, I was in horde losing epics all day lol.