Do you think they actually have the nerve to repackage covenants as different dragonflights and reuse the whole covenant system despite how negatively received covenants and soul binds were?
I’m hearing a lot of the leaks suggesting this. Not that I believe leaks but now I am worried they might actually do it out of laziness to push content faster.
Thoughts? How do you feel about covenants? What if they start off like they did in SL where they are exclusive only no swapping?
I honestly can’t believe blizzard would allow dragonflights to be a thing. This is an outrage! NO one has asked for this and they have the gall to be doing this!?
Is it laziness to take a system you improved upon that people now find enjoyable and continue enhancing it?
Oh yeah, they’re 100% making each dragonflight a covenant lol. They probably decided to do that when designing the Shadowlands covenants.
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I honestly hope they do…. I think the covenant system at THIS point is great, but don’t get me wrong it was bad on release.
I think copying aspects from previous expansions is ok to an extent. If all they do is release systems that take a lot of work and drop them after one xpac, than it’s a complete waste of time. If they are willing to learn from their mistakes and improve upon previous features than it’s going to make for a better game overall.
Look at torghast for example. So much potential to have been amazing, and it’s like they gave up halfway through its development. Now think of all the time that was wasted on that, that instead could have been put in other aspects of the game.
All comes down to whether they are actually willing to improve upon the content that they are re-using. More character customization is never a bad thing. What’s bad is time gating, and locking players into choices
from what i saw the black dragon flight is for tanks and melee dps
blue for mages and healers if i remember
They were kinda 
at first, but they’re alright now. As long as we don’t take a step backwards I think it’ll be well received by everyone who matters.
Also, lol @ “the nerve”.
Time Traveler?!
Oh Mother of Prime, I see this making sense.
Maybe they learned not to hide larger chunks of a zone’s story behind the covenants such as the character of Devos.
i think they should leave them alone. Just make the venthyr teleport instant-cast.
I really hope not. Like I said in another thread: as a casual/solo player/bad player (which ever you want to go with) these systems feel daunting and they’re a turn off for me to do current content.
I believe this will be the thing that happens.
Everyone is hyping up player housing? Why it’s not happening, even if it did happen they’d time gate it and not make it a fun system outside of gearing, they literally only know how to make the game about gearing up and nothing else at all.
They will 100% repackage the covenant system using Dragonflights this time though it will probably be cosmetic only but with the 9.0 restrictions, because it will be cosmetic only, they will 100% butcher more lore and will probably not add a new class or race AT ALL. Like come on, the team has become complacent and lazy, it’s done.
I really want housing but I’m trying not to get excited about it because the leaks are sketchy.
I want it too but I just know it isn’t happening ever, I think.
Do they have the nerve to do so? Yes.
Will they be as bad as covenants as they were at SL start? No, at least hopefully no.
Covenant type system is fine and is a way to introduce choices into WoW BUT if any given covenant (or whatever system it is) is better than the others thats a problem. Keep it cosmetic or have a flavor ability, this might be controversial but the general covenant abilities like Soulshape, Steward, Fleshcraft, and Door of Shadows were fine as you got something that was helpful in different situations.
If this is what it turns out to be that is fine, different roles benefitting from different Dragonflights that can be balanced around generally instead of 4 different covs for 36 specs that all have varying usefulness depending on said spec. Essentially making the choice for you and maybe just being a general buff you get from your “legendary ring” or something like that.
Yeah, I’m skeptical. Probably be some kind of thematic dragon lairs. Like ocean remote towers. Deep cave. Forest. Desert. Etc
Even if they DO have player housing, which I think they won’t, let’s be honest. Look at Torghast or anything else.
They WILL screw it up, and it will literally have no value past the 10.0 expansion itself. Just like garrisons, and covenants, they will do player housing dirty like that.
LMAO
Seems you’ve already made up your mind, so what’s the point of this thread?
As much as I want to believe they’ve learned from covenants, I’m not holding my breath
I’d almost guarantee if they give us covenants 2.0, it will come with some kind of grind and time gate.
They’ll probably also be unbalanced with certain ones favoring certain specs