One thing I kind of wonder is what would have happened if Zovaal had simply been subdued and imprisoned again rather then rather then killed. But this time they did it correctly and made sure he can’t escape or use minions to do his bidding. Compared to Sargeras, Zovaal seems be more the kind of being you could reason with under the right circumstances. But is it possible he could be redeemed under the right circumstances?
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I’m still in the belief he was just a dominated Arbiter so there was no reasoning with him.
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In order for someone to be redeemed they have to see the error of their ways. Zovaal held his beliefs to the end, so no.
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How can you redeem a guy who did nothing wrong?
He knew that a divided universe couldn’t stand against what has yet to come, and we killed him for it
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Those nipples were a too big risk to leave existing.
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Beats new level on block blast with ease IRL
Yep…Zovaal didn’t even do anything wrong. His darkest crime was…betraying the titans? that’s not even close to some of the atrocities I’ve committed on Azeroth - which include genocide of Murlocks and Kobolds (which we now know are civilized humanoids, and not just enchanted beasts).
Poor guy was trying to save us the entire time…
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Wasn’t he the good guy the entire time? i was only partly paying attention but i coulda swore he was the good guy making tough decisions n we were the fools at the end of the story.
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We could always ask him. Get me some jumper cables. Those aren’t nips, their battery nubs.
We’ll charge him back up with an anima battery and ask him. Simple enough. Same as a car.
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I don’t think entities like the First Ones or the Titans really see things the way we do, nor do I think they derive motivation or justification for their actions the way we do. They’re all pretty set in their ways. It’s only when you start getting down to our level of lifeform that you really start seeing a lot of second-guessing, doubt, and collaborating start being more of a factor in how someone behaves.
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You know that it would inevitably explode and take the entire dimension with it!
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I see your point, but Zovaal also wasn’t in a situation where he was being forced to change his ways. If someone has enough power it gets to the point where they don’t really have to care how others feel. Thats basically why many dictators in history went unchecked and didn’t change much. However if you take that power away and put them in a situation where they have to be empathetic to others and they just may change.
I don’t think entities like the First Ones or the Titans really see things the way we do, nor do I think they derive motivation or justification for their actions the way we do. They’re all pretty set in their ways. It’s only when you start getting down to our level of lifeform that you really start seeing a lot of second-guessing, doubt, and collaborating start being more of a factor in how someone behaves.
Yea. Think about it like this. A human doing gardening in their backyard doesn’t care about the plight of ants if they are shoveling up an antihill to put a shed there.
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Well yes, but is the destruction of everything within the Shadowlands ‘really’ such a great loss? 
I honestly try to not think about Zovaal or the Shadowlands at all, if I can help it.
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I’m still hoping they retcon Shadowlands by saying the entire expansion was all happening in our character’s mind, the product of an insanity brought on by the things he witnessed facing off against N’zoth.
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You cannot force empathy. Zovaal had his power stripped and was banished but he still pursued his plans. He did this because he felt it was a righteous and just cause. This more like comparing dictators and zealots. One is doing it for power, the other is doing it as a higher calling. Zealots are harder to change because they deeply believe that everything they are doing is ultimately for a great good. That any ants harmed should be grateful they have been allowed to take part in greatness.
Also a zealot will gladly give up their life for their cause but a dictator will abandon their cause if that means they can keep their life. Dictators have something to loose which gives them more incentive to change. Zovaal was closer to be a zealot than a dictator when it came to his beliefs in my opinion.
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That is a good point, but could it be possible for him to change his beliefs? One thing I am still not quite sure of. What flaws does he believe the current system has? Sometimes people can come see to problems with their own beliefs and change them.
His crime was actually attempted murder of the entire universe.
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As well as all that torture and enslavement going on.
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What a little torture and enslavement between friends
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He could have been redeemed if the story were written differently. When I first saw the model of the dead Jailor (the husk of himself) I got a little excited thinking his story was going to take a different turn. Like, maybe the Arbiter absorbs his power, or he was reduced to his humble beginnings, or something like that… turn out it was just a fancy model for his corpse, lol.
Short answer, yes, but not with the way Blizz wrote things.