Some days I can spend hours upon hours just spamming trade chat to look for that one person who can craft the items I want, or recraft. Even having other players on my friends list who can craft what I want, they are not always on, and if I send them an order I have no idea when they are going to be back on either.
We have cross realm almost everything, including guilds, so what’s stopping them from allowing cross realm crafting? Even just a small change allowing us to choose a minimum rank for public orders and I can simply submit an order before I go to bed.
But as it stands, I sit here and watch a handful of players spamming the same thing over and over trying to find that one person sitting in town who is available to craft and has the required acuity to do it.
I would love some sort of window we could post on to connect crafters with customers. Like… crafters could list themselves with prices/info and it would show them as online (even if on an alt) so someone needing a craft could reach out. I’m definitely willing to craft things, but most of the time I’m not even in a main city for trade chat - I’m out questing or collecting etc.
Yeh it’s a bit odd that we as the customer need to keep a list of who can craft for us on our friends list, if they even accept our friend request. While the crafter, you, has to be in town to be able to see if anyone wants a specialty craft done.
Your idea can work, “Here is my shop, I am available now”, it would help a lot.
Until he abandons that mindset of “being special, or anyone knowing your name or giving you a personal order because the ecosystem is much larger” then I think we’ll be stuck with server-based crafting orders. I would love it if you could place an order and it was region-wide and you could pick from the top 5 “best ask prices” that crafters capable of doing what you want are asking for a commission. Similarly crafters can list their profession and their asking price and then pick among orders (like they can now) to do the ones they think are an acceptable offer. People that want it quick but also want quality can simply go with a “market price” automatically set as the midpoint of the ask price from crafters and the bid price from buyers looking for a craft.
See he thinks we know who can craft what. The only person I knew who could craft Lariat got the recipe early in the season and then left the game, after that I had to spam trade chat every time I wanted an upgrade and I can never recall who even crafted it each time.
Right now I have the issue in even finding people, I have a friend I was in a guild with once who can craft swords for me, but every time I want a craft he is never online. And just now I finally got a wrist craft after 2 days checking, with the only 2 people in my guild that can do it have not been online for 5 and 27 days respectively.
It’s great to say “Oh yeh go to that person if you want X done”, but first they need to be online, or even still playing, you just never know when they are going to show up if at all. And if everyone knows ‘Joe the Lariat crafter’ and everyone tells you to send your orders to Joe, the dude can charge whatever they want and then no one else will really get a chance to get in since people will just send their orders to the same person every time.
There are plenty of good suggestions, crafters listing what they can do like a shop front would be absolutely amazing, can see what their price is, if they are online, can send them an order and have a system that lets them see what they have ready to craft, that would be so good.
But honestly I just want a way where I can post a public order with a rank, that’s it, that’s all they need to do, a very simple change and it solves our problems.
Sometimes I see people asking in trade for something I can make, but I don’t reply. I do public orders - R5 for the ones I choose to do, where the customer provides R3 mats and a good tip.
As someone who has all the professions, I’d like to see a massive overhaul of the public order interface. I’d like to see all the orders any of my alts could do, and accept on behalf of that alt without switching over until i’m ready to craft it. (I think a two-hour window would be reasonable.)
For customers using the system they could have the option to 'save crafter" in a favorites list or something like that. I’d also like to see the aucton house being integrated somehow. Also, you can only do cross-realm orders if you are in the same guild and that’s very limiting.
And because of people like you it makes the whole thing worse. Now I don’t mean it’s all your fault, you have the right to not craft for people, that’s your choice.
But having people like you in game means it just makes it harder to get things done, so the whole plan for Ion to have this server identity and connecting crafters to customers doesn’t work simply because you choose not to engage, it just throws their whole plan to the side when players choose to play the game in a way they did not intend.
And that can be a good thing, if they assume X players are going to participate in Y, but X is half what they planned, in a way it forces them to change how the system is.
That would mean I would need to have minimum 4 characters with just crafting professions, then I would need to upkeep them every week or at least until they are all at max profession rank and full knowledge points.
On top of that I would need to get a gatherer or two and spend countless hours gathering items or spend a pretty penny on AH mats. At this point I would have to take all four crafters out farming dirt to catch up on professions, and depending on luck and how long it might take, this could be an endeavour that could take months if I don’t drop everything else I am doing (Keys, raids, PVP).
On top of this I also need to go raid and dungeon farming to get the recipes I want, with how RNG that all is, I could very well end up never getting the items I want. Like for one of the food recipes, I only just this week got my own one to drop from RNG in overworld content, that’s four months.
Long term this could work if RNG works in my favour, come S2 I might have more recipes to farm, but if the obvious solution is to do it yourself, then their whole plan has failed and that needs to be addressed. I doubt even Blizzard are this mean that they want players to run 4-6 characters just to craft everything themselves.
It’s crazy you have to spam chat for hours on Frostmourne to get a crafter. Here on Stormrage, the crafters spam chat. What did you need crafted?
For clarification, are you asking the crafter to spend their Acuity or their Concentration? You absolutely must provide your own Acuity; no serious crafter will provide theirs for someone else’s crafts. This is because many crafting recipes, as well as BoP profession tools and accessories cost Acuity. The Artisan’s Tailoring Coat, for example, costs 300 Acuity.
Hard agree on cross-realm crafting, however. And the Elemental Lariat drop rate never should have been that insultingly low. You’d think in the same expansion that Follower Dungeons were introduced, forcing a misplaced sense of community between crafters and clients via horrible drop rates for BiS equipment recipes would have been the last thing on Blizzard’s mind.
They do heavy timegating with acuity and ingenuity so you dont make too much gold and pay for your sub with it–which is exactly what ive been tryng to do lol.
I think a lot of people asking for 5T orders on literally everything, even with subpar mats-- don’t realize how much goes into crafting 5T gear. Sometimes I spend up to 1k just getting extra points ground out on patron orders or buy the concentrated concentrate, and the unraveling instructions buff, which is 500 gold on my server. And i keep up with the crafting daily or every other day, especially on my blacksmith. It’s a lot of grind.
Really? In Shadowlands the plan was to have every player who wanted to collect all the gear to run 4 characters of each armor type, one in each covenant.
Yep it’s frustrating, DF was so bad on my server they for TWW I actually switched profession on my alts so I have them all and can craft basically everything myself. It took a while but right now I think I can make everything at max rank.
Annoying that I had to take this into my one hands in an MMO though
I haven’t been able to find a single person to make the profession tools I need to begin with due my servers trade chat dying in SL. And without minimum quality levels for public work orders, the entire profession system has collapsed as a gameplay mechanism.
It isn’t as bad as Dragonflight. Most RNG crafting recipes are BoE, meaning you can purchase them on the AH. It isn’t necessary to farm mats either. If you play your cards right, you can turn a nice profit even if you use mats from the AH.
Also, between the profession treasures and the knowledge point books you can purchase with Acuity and Kej, you can become profitable very quickly. I started Enchanting late this expansion, and it took me only two weeks to break even. Tailors, Blacksmiths and Leatherworkers take a bit more time to break even, but you will save yourself gold on crafts and re-crafts for the entire expansion if you decide to invest in them; plus you can craft for others and charge them a pretty penny. It’s not too late to start.
Not going to give away my secrets, but there are crafting guides on YouTube that are super helpful, if you decide to try crafting.
