Name a single item in Wrath (or even TBC) that requires 40-50 hours per week commitment for multiple weeks on end.
That is what the new ranking system is. A minimum 40 hour/week commitment (full time job btw)
A full time job is too casual.
You can actually survive that time commitment.
A proper grind should be bringing you to the brink of hospitalization.
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The ranking system (old and new) is not arena and there’s no official text anywhere that says rank 14 was meant to be an indication of sick APM/reflexes as a pro gamer.
It’s a dedication reward and it’s totally fine for games to have those.
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That was in response to the above poster who insinuated that the old ranking system required being ‘good enough’.
I’m fine with the current system as is, it’s one less avenue for weirdos who can’t help themselves but engage in collusion to capitalize on.
The truth is the current team are striving to make changes for good, but they can’t find it cuz they don’t have anyone in there who has really lived and felt vanilla wow to the bones.
What’s the solution? Bring back some of the old devs or hire some of these amazing ppl we have with years of experience in private servers who can develop n build vanilla like ideas.
Oh no, people get a rank in a game where that rank essentially means very little… R14, was never a “skill title” it was all about who can spend the most time playing the game and spamming BGs with more than likely a premade group.
Thanks I needed a laugh tonight.
lowbies are easily entertained.
LOL, that is just…a laughably bad take. Expecting these devs to just turn off the part of their brain that develops the Retail game and enter into some completely separate design mindset “like Vanilla” is absurd. That’s like asking a K-Pop band to write a new Pink Floyd record that sounds like Dark Side of the Moon; not only couldn’t those kids do it, but the results would almost certainly satisfy no one.
I’ll go a step further. If you brought back everyone who had a hand in making Vanilla to make this new Classic-only content, I’d bet my mortgage that the results would be nothing at all like Vanilla was.
You know what, I hope they do it now. Screw it. The anger threads from overgrown man-children will be epic and hilarious.
“You think you do…”
Edit: as if to make my freaking point for me, Roger Waters of Pink Floyd literally released a reimagined version of Dark Side of the Moon TODAY. The guy wrote most of Dark Side of the Moon…and here he is trying to do it again. I’m on Us and Them and it’s absolutely tragic. No one anywhere needed this or deserved this.
Weren’t you crying about it saying how awful and casual it was?
Its funny because the people complaining about the new system would 99% likely never get r14 with the old system’s demands along with the gatekeeping. To be fair most of the people complaining probably still wont get r14 however its atleast in reach.
Shocker blizzard actively making changes that a large part of the community seems to want them to make.
Blizzard introducing horrible features and changes such as making every class have a competitive dps spec to play. How dare they. Everyone knows classic should have wildly unfair balance. That’s classic.
Blizzard adding a custom group finder to filter trade chat spam and avoiding the addition of the universally criticized LFG.
If retail means changes that might benefit the health of the game then sign me up.
If you just want your buzzword of the month to hate and rail against something because you need that in your life. Go ahead but hey says more about you.
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I don’t think you’re making the point you think you’re making. I’m not asking for a reimagined Classic, I’m just asking for more content like Classic provides. Look at what is, then do similar stuff. It’s not rocket science, I have a ton of ideas for things to do with assets, animations, and behaviours that are already in the game.
If you can’t think of a way to make any new experiences out of that, it’s a you problem.
Also I like how you’re quoting JAB like it actually means something and didn’t turn out to be completely wrong, lol. Turns out we thought we did… and we did. Go figure.
But why are so many people who enjoy Classic, insistent on making changes? Why? That wasn’t the point of Classic at all… If more changes begin to happen then we’re going to lose the appeal of Classic.
For me the bottomline for Classic is that it’s a game for people who want to play Classic WoW. Not a different form of it.
OP acting like Molten Core was somehow difficult LOL.
How many hours are required to get 500k honor?
What percentage of the classic playerbase can afford to spend that many hours playing for multiple weeks?
I’m sure this feels like “welfare” for someone who did the grind before it was changed. It’s still not a consideration for the average player.
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For clarity, changes should not happen in Classic Era.
Any and all mention of changes from me specifically pertains to a hypothetical Classic+. I think Classic Era, has had enough changes.
Truthfully, I’m not a fan of how monetized it is (which is not consistent with the original experience)… and while I might want changes surrounding that, what’s the point? It’s entirely player driven and Blizzard doesn’t seem to have any plans to put a stop to it anyway. This seems to just be the game now.
no but theyre going to act like you can get rank 14 with casual play. its what they do.
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I am. Sorry you’re missing it.
Yes, you are. And that’s exactly what any attempt to iterate on Classic is going to give you.
That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works. That’s not how creativity, design, iteration, or any of this works at all.
Without even seeing them, I’m 100% positive that most of your ideas change Vanilla in ways you haven’t thought of and furthermore that a wide swath of players would find them terrible. It would be impossible for it to be otherwise.
This community proves him right with the daily barrage of threads asking for myriad changes to Classic. The whole impetus behind Classic was players saying “We just want Vanilla WoW back” and private servers being the only ones willing to deliver it for years until Blizzard finally gave it to you. In truth, a small number of you actually wanted that. You want:
- Vanilla, but with Retail graphics.
- Vanilla, but every spec is viable.
- Vanilla, but with Horde paladins and Alliance shaman.
- Vanilla, but with blood elves and draenei or worgen or whatever.
- Vanilla, but with special new content just for us that essentially turns it into WoW 2.
Not one of those things is the Vanilla you asked for and none of you can agree on what ones should be done. However you slice it, it won’t be Vanilla or Classic when you’re done with it. It’ll be something completely different. Because the truth is…you thought you wanted it, but you really didn’t. He was being facetious and even a bit of a braggart, but he was right. You don’t want Vanilla or else you wouldn’t all be in here screaming at Blizz to make it into WoW 2.
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I think you’re confusing me with someone else here. None of these things are what I’m asking for. They aren’t even remotely close. Contain your outrage.
Furthermore, just because some people ask for retail changes to be applied to Era does not prove him right. In fact, he was proven wrong by the overwhelming popularity of Classic Era. You like to throw around that particular quote but apparently find it convenient to forget that he later stated, “You think that you want this, and I think maybe that you do.”
You seem to have a lot of opinions about something you don’t know anything about. Maybe you should spend some time actually looking into what I’m advocating for. However, even if you don’t like that, you could simply not engage with it.
Why? Because I’m not advocating for any changes to Era.
