Do you need to PvE in Cataclysm for PvP? Also is gear locked behind Arena rating?

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Just want to know this:

  • Do you need to PvE in Cataclysm for PvP? (Raiding)
  • Is gear locked behind Arena rating?

Because if any of those is true I won’t bother.

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I want to say gear is locked behind rating but there are also rated Bgs that’s you can get easy rating from

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Yes and no. T2 weapon is behind rating, the rest is not but your weekly points cap is though. Also, honor gear is not bad at all.
Now, PVE weapons and trinkets are still significantly better for most classes.

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  1. No, and that wasn’t the case for crusade or wrath either, so not sure why you’d even ask.
  2. Yes, but cataclysm introduced rated BGs which reward conquest, meaning you can get them there instead of the garbage arena.

You seem to have the words “fact” and “lie” confused. Let me spell it then. You did not need to do PVE WHAT SO EVER, for PVP gear in crusade + wrath. PVE content doesn’t even reward honor/conquest to buy PVP gear unless you count the 1 quest in WG (a zone that forces PVP flagging) to kill mobs. These are facts, not lies.

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I don’t want anything to do with premades.

Well that’s all I needed to read, not going to bother, pass.

The fact that you have to lie about this tells me everything I need to know.

I do hate arenas too, but I also hate BG premades and everything that has to do with it and rating in general to get gear.

Thank you everyone but it’s a hard pass for me, for what I have been reading retail is much better I rather play that when I’m done with SOD.

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He wants 2.2k rated gear without the rating

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Yeah, any pvp game that gives advantages via gear is a joke.

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an mmorpg is about developing your character.

you’re looking for a moba.

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A MMORPG it’s about playing in a world not specifically about gear progress.

Besides I am not against gear progress, I am against it being implemented in a stupid way like in PvP where good players get rewarded with better gear then this players prevent other players to get the same gear and creates an uneven field where good players monopolize gear advantage.

It’s unfair, everyone should be allowed to get the best pvp gear and then the good players should be rewarded higher rating, mounts and skins but not power.

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so since the bg is not part of the world, it shouldn’t exist?

i agree.

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That is a straw man. And besides there are actual BG instance entrances in the world.

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Looks like you should be playing a different game for PvP then. WoW has always been gear focused.

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And I have, but it doesn’t mean MMOs can’t have better pvp systems, GW2 equalizes gear in one of it’s pvp formats, same as lost ark, not saying that’s the best solution but I have read that retail makes easier to get PvP gear and nothing is really impossible to get because it’s behind rating.

Seems Blizzard agrees with me and with the many people that don’t want this absurd “gear behind rating” that just doesn’t even make sense.

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the strongest, most accomplished players, get unique and prestigious rewards.

what doesn’t make sense?

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I already explained you just want to keep acting like you don’t understand.

Good players or even lucky players get to high rating and then on top of being already better at the game they get now a gear advantage, it doesn’t make sense to allow this players to gatekeep not only by skill but also with gear advantage other players and prevent them from gearing.

With skill and gear advantage they completely prevent others from getting geared, it doesn’t make sense to give a group that is already ahead of others even more advantages.

If your next response is a circular logic fallacy again I will block you.

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here’s where you’re wrong: you’re thinking singleplayer. but the good-geared players have a 50% chance to be in your team.

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No, I am not wrong, it’s wrong to make the players snowball in power when they already have a skill advantage, the only thing you do is to make people unable to gear themselves and then what happens? People stop playing and give up.

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if they don’t have the curiosity to innovate, the desire to improve and the determination to make it happen, we are better off without them. Quality over quantity.

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Simple answer is Yes, its basically required because of certain PvE Raid weapons and trinkets.

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You’re not wrong, but Good luck getting gear dependent players to accept this.

Additionally the Legion Template system is also trash, so in before that.

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