Do you know whats now even WORSE than epic PVP premade clownage?

When each premade now sends a single player into the que, they see its – “OH NO!” “ANOTHER PREMADE? ! !!! ?” So that person tells the other 33 people not to take the que… So they drop que leaving us solo que slobs with a team of 7 people to face a premade of 40 in Ashran. This is now happening multiple times per day and it proves 2 things, the “just do a premade vs premade thing blizz" wouldn’t really work as thats obviously not what the premaders want and that these premades on both sides are just there to face roll the other non-premade teams all day, they don’t even want to face each other. PATHETIC… These clowns have absolutely ruined the epic PVP aspect of the game in every possible way imaginable at this point.

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Horde premades love to dodge, for they are weaker than alliance premades, that they have to have 20 of them in a bg to win. Thats why.

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Why is this a surprise? It’s this way in the all the MMO’s that do biggish pvp. I’ve mentioned this before, but in GW2 they are called Boonballs, in ESO they are called Ballgroups and in Wow they are called Premades. In each of these games players complain they are ruining pvp, also in each there are modes that allow organized players to play against other organised players. In each of these games these organized groups more often (almost exclusively) choose to roflstomp pugs.

Blizz already only allows 5 mans. What else can they do that won’t lead to worse outcomes? I don’t think they can do anything…except Blitz. Which they are trying. Epics will still be more popular over all, I’d guess, even with the premades.

Sorry, that’s not the reason Horde dodged. The Horde communities all dodge that one alliance community because no one wants to play with or against them. As a pug, you’re a casualty of this.

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Can confirm.

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What’s weirdest to me is that community that drops when that time of day it’s only pugs on the other side. Anyway, yeah, if only blizz did proper matchmaking.

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Oh yea and… Epic Premades should be so rare and hard to pull off, that basically only multi-boxers can legally pull them off and get away with it.

:timer_clock: for xfacshun ebgs

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Translation: we can’t win so let’s connive and make a false narrative out of them.

Anyway, i witnessed it first hand. I alone got myself into an av against Avm, pugs and I gave them a hard time during the first team fight then few of our members backfilled and we defeated them.

very sportsmanlike of you guys

the pugs salute you lot! (They don’t)

She’s upset, she was running away after they wiped at Snowfall gy, I glidered, polyd her and she got rekt by happy pugs.

Post on your main

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Three things:

First, EPIC BGS are not real PvP.

Second, very sad when people need to make groups of 10+ for a game mode that isn’t PvP or PvE.

Finally, even more sad when people post threads smack talking about who they beat in a form of PvP (which isn’t PvP IMHO) that really doesn’t matter or test people’s skills.

I mean for me EPICS are AOE fest that I would queue up if I needed honor points for a fresh under geared level 70 toon. To be honest anyone who is fully geared and does EPICS is worse than those who party-sync low level battlegrounds (as far as not being a real PvPer).

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if all you know of epics is the pugs runs to noob hill and aoe team fight clashes, i can see where you get that idea, but there is a lot more to them than that. the most intense pvp will usually be on defense where defenders are often going 2v2 and 3v3 or 5v5 to backcap towers and save the game. if you know where to look, there is direct pvp in every epic that makes a huge difference in the outcome of the game, its not only teamfights.

Got it, when you say AVM, you’re talking about the three of us + pugs we don’t know. Honestly, I didn’t realize we were considered a full AVM group. And just to be clear, I don’t speak on behalf of AVM. I really enjoy playing with the AVM crew. They’re great folks with solid rules that I totally respect. Anything I post on this forum is on me; I’m not here representing them.

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PvP means Player vs Player, last time I checked?

So you mean to say if I catch you somewhere in the world and down you it doesn’t count as player vs player since it’s not rated?

Who decided what “real” pvp means? Lol

Look, I am not one of those that call organized EPIC communities cheaters. With that said it isn’t real PvP, a lot of players here alone that are known for being great in EPICS I have ran into in regular battlegrounds and they got stomped.

Got nothing against it, but it just isn’t real PvP for me. A bad player can hide behind those 10+ protecting he or she, that isn’t the case in regular battlegrounds.

I doubt you could do that, but with that said yes that would be PvP.

Honey, I have the roster on screenshot. That is definitely not 3 of you +pugs. Don’t act like I did not play with SaS for years. Good try tho.

Saying one EPIC community beat another in an EPIC battleground is like saying I got a free toy in my Happy Meal.