So I started playing WoW in 2016, around 2017 on Antorus was when I started getting into the end game scene and uh… I kinda got used to the idea of optmizing as much as I could.
Before then I can clearly remember just playing for the hell of it, no matter the game, on Story games I wouldn’t even search anything online even if I had a doubt to avoid spoilers, however, the bad side was I didn’t even try to improve on League because of it.
Nowadays it’s completely the opposite. When I play Story games I look up mission orders, what party members to bring if it’s a party-based game, best equipment and depending on the game what’s the strongest class and all that and if I try to avoid doing that I kinda get that tingling on my brain that something is missing.
There are some advantanges of course, using League as an example again, while I don’t play as often nowadays I am completely fine watching long videos to learn new roles or tactics or even rewatching my matches to check my mistakes, but on singleplayer games though? Feels wrong not to try optmizing or resist the temptation to look something up if I don’t know how it works.
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No, no I don’t do any of this stuff. Played wow since 2007, ff14 off and on since Jan. 2015, and gw2 since early 2014. The only thing mmos ever did to me was make me want to play specific types of games: Action Adventure RPGs, or just action games in general. Other games are boring as hell to me now.
Nope. Optimizing is fun. Being efficient is fun.
I used to play to the meta in a lot of games but, in my experience, it detracted from my enjoyment of the games by taking away my agency (Arcane mage 4 life) so I stopped.
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i play for social because i have no friend but online every is my friend!!
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It has nothing to do with mmos and is just how people are now.
Whether it’s street fighter or elden ring or diablo 3, everything is tier list this or build guide that.
The good news is for single player games at least, you can ignore them and play how you want to play. Even for mmos to a certain extent you can ignore the meta if you mostly play solo.
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Are you able to do well enough?
Dont need meta. It is all in your heads. Most marry metas with their own twist. Dont overthink it
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looks at the large steam library of games ranging from solitaire to rpgs to shooters to torture simulators (I’m looking at you Kenshi!)
Nope
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Yeah, that’s the problem, I conditioned my brain to think I need it, “if I am not opperating at 100% then why opperate” kind of deal you know? It’s not so easy to break, as said in the post, if I am for instance playing Mass Effect without looking at a guide for mission order and best squad members for the most dialogue I feel like something is missing, same for looking for the best gear for Infiltrator, Insanity isn’t even that hard but I felt like I absolutely needed all the best pieces to get the most out of ammo capacity for the sniper, headshot damage and weapon damage.
I wasn’t like this at all before and it’s been getting kinda hard to enjoy even first playthroughs in some games. Dunno what happened to me.
i would be the person that went beyond anyones expecations of this game when it came to creating a toon that can do everything, even the impossible. 225 nerfs directly to my toon and i quit counting.
all you are saying is. you have become a theory crafter. a term i have coined.
I’m not great at following “the meta” in any game. I usually pick the spellcaster character and stick with them as long as I find them fun. I’ve mostly played frost since 2005 even when it wasn’t the best spec. I’m not afraid to experiment though. I still play other games and enjoy figuring things out on my own.
I played Zelda games before playing WoW, so guide hugging wasn’t new. Before the internet we just bought guides. Now everything is free with a Google search.
I feel you, it’s mostly that I was just kinda the opposite of that. I made sure to avoid guides and try to make my own builds, I would often miss a hell of a lot of stuff on my first playthroughs but I was ok with that.
Nowadays I am kinda of a control freak in this regard, if I miss a mission, even by accident I instantly want to go back to a save earlier that allows me to do said mission, even if it’s like 5h ago.
It’s ruined other games for me because other games end at some point. I know WoW will end some day, but it changed how I look at hours played and the meaning behind it.
Nope, I don’t look things up if I’m playing a solo game for the first time. I want to be surprised on my first playthrough. On the second or third playthroughs, it’s open season.