Do we need both Ethereals and Brokers?

Not going to lie, I like Brokers more.

Have you ever noticed how you’ve never seen them both together in the same place?

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I was wondering that too.
Wonder what the reason was to not use Ethereals in SL?

The Ethereals seemed more interesting to me.

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We need both.

Firim vs Locus-Walker. The cosmic expansion writes itself.

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The Ethereals really strike me as an artifact of the old cosmological lore. You know, back when a “Void Lord” was just a really big Voidwalker than could nom nom a planet, Galactus style.

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Ethereals FTW! The Brokers look like they are based off that guy in south Africa who shot and killed his girlfriend through the bathroom door.

I bet you’re right.
Thats one of the reasons I didn’t like Shadowlands. The way Blizz phrased the afterlife was really weak. It just seemed like more of the living world. Meh, poor design.

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:nauseated_face:

Ethereals are far more interesting to me. More enigmatic, with a more sinister edge.

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Shadowlands added so much stuff that already existed in some other form before hand.

It’s got to be most retconny retcon that ever retconned.

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Brokers are executed better but that’s an artifact of them being in a more recent expansion that highlights minor characters in a way the original content didn’t

Ethereals are a much better concept from a much better part of the lore and with a cooler design

Orcs in space is better than necromancers in Bone Valhalla imo

Robot Gods!

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Ethereals > Brokers

Ethereals won’t perpetually remind us of this abomination of an expansion.

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Yeah.

It’s a bit cringe. The Brokers mentioning the existence of the Legion and then shrugging their shoulders and saying they think they’re no big deal is Danuser being a bit of a cringelord and trying to throw out Metzen’s toys and say “No, NO MY bad guy is the big spooky bad guy! Your bad guy is poo-doo!”

It’s like… just stop dude. You want to do your own thing Danuser, fine, but trying to one-up Metzen is just so goofy.

I’m really hoping that backlash to Shadowlands and the focus on more old-school elements in DF leads to the Ethereal coming back and usurping the role of “Cosmic Power Broker”.

A broker is just an ethereal with puffy pantaloons.

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I still say the brokers are the first ones, running things from the shadows.

That was unnecessarily offensive.

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How so? How is it offensive they remind me of him?

I assume you’re talking about Oskar Pistorius.

And it’s not offensive. :man_shrugging:

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Firim has more personality than any of those walking bandages.

Brokers, ez.

lmao.

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As much as I hate to give FF14 props their bad guy Emet Selch was very well done. He was just another bad guy that we’ve seen like 3 or 4 of already and had dealt with, but he was very well written. Problem is, is that Danuser is just bad at his job.

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