Kul Tirans ever stopped being at war with the Horde at the end of WC3?
not really, is just that the horde ignored them until now.
The remnants of daelin have been attacking during classic and tried a coup in theramore in cata if i remember correctly to attack the horde.
as far as i remember that was the last interaction they had.
it seems like they stopped caring.
No diplomats from either side.
Abit vague, but according to the Jaina comic Kul Tiras claims to be âneutralâ.
Your right I had forgotten about the comic! Strange⌠they say in the same comic, couldnât be at peace with the Horde, but theyâre neutral? Doesnât that mean to some extent peace?
Depends on your definition of âat warâ
Hostile towards the Horde, sure. Despite chasing Thrall to Kalimdor, presumably Daelin went home and received word that Jaina had then lead the Lordaeron refugees there. He didnât go to Theramore to attack the Horde, he went to find Jaina and found the Horde there too.
Some of his men clearly went back to KT after Theramore, to spread the story of Jainaâs âbetrayalâ. I canât imagine the KT fleet was in a position to go and invade Orgimmar after that, so they chose to express their anger through song instead.
If at some point in the years between TFT and BFA a horde ship washed up on the shores of KT, I canât imagine it would have ended well for them
2 Likes
Itâs been a long time since the last time there was a meaningful prescence of Kul Tirans in Kalimdor and that was (apparently) right before the Cataclysm so it can be presumed from the gaps and the Jaina comic that Kul Tiras assumed neutrality at the outbreak of hostilities between the Alliance and new Horde in that expansion. I vaguely remember a Blizzcon question or twitter response from Metzen that said âKul Tiras was dealing with its own problems after the Cataclysmâ or something along those lines.
The battleground of Tol Barad appeared to be in a weird political status as the only native presence left were the Baradinâs Wardens which committed itself to the Alliance but themselves didnât seem claimed by either Kul Tiras or Stromguarde and only remained devoted to keeping ahold of the prison. It might be presumed that Kul Tiras felt comfortable abandoning the outpost just as Stromguarde did.
I feel like KT never stopped being at war with the Horde, but they were so utterly insignificant to the Horde, that the Horde didnât care, forgot they existed, or both.
3 Likes
Kul Tiras maintained a presence in Durotar at Tiragarde Keep and remained hostile towards the Horde up until Cataclysm when the waves caused by Deathwing wiped out the garrison stationed there.
Troop strength was never sufficient to launch an attack on Orgrimmar, so it was probably more of an observation post.
Interestingly there is still exactly one Kul Tiras Marine at Tiragarde Keep, manning a crowâs nest atop one of the wrecked ships.
So I donât Kul Tiras was neutral in the proper sense, but in more of a Cold War state and more focused internally on rebuilding their fleets.
I doubt Thrall wanted to stay at war with them either. He probably just wanted them to stay the hell away.
Doesnât appear to me as if theyâre welcome on the continent, but it would seem that after seceding from the Alliance in the wake of Daelinâs death, Kul Tiras wasnât actively making war on the Horde.
With the destruction of their fleet at Theramore, they were no longer a relevant force.
Basically they went into a silent isolationist period akin to what Gilneas did, except they didnât need a wall because well⌠they had the ocean. From what we see in BfA it seem like the Kul Tiran government overall went into a long period of decline, unable to cope with the sudden loss of the man who had brought the houses together under one banner for the first time.
Basically they didnt actively hunt down the Horde after Daelinâs fall, but it seems they still revile them. There just was no strong governmental force to corral the noble houses and direct their combined military to war.
And at that point, the entirety of the Horde they knew was on the other side of the ocean.