Do warriors use magic in the lore?

while in-game warrior players use lots of borderline superhuman techniques and powers ALL the time, able to kill scores of mages, warlocks, druids, going toe to toe with paladins easy no problem…do the warriors in the wow story actually have those kind of miracle abilities and stuff, reflecting spells and everything?

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Well Garrosh was pretty strong.

Thrall floored him with elemental magic.
And last I heard elemental shamans were a sad affair.

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Not that we know of, no. I assume it’s left open to interpretation so you can insert what you want in there. Like perhaps you’re a Nightborne warrior who does use magic, a Blood Elf Spellbreaker, or a Void Elf anti-paladin.
It’s all up to you.

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Nothing common. It’s an older bit of lore but plate armor is supposed to interfere with channeling arcane magic, so that’s why mages use lighter wear.

Consider how studious you need to be to wield the arcane effectively, as well as the discipline and regiment of swordsmanship etc. It would probably be difficult for many to balance the two.

It’s a bit of a hazy area; while warriors presumably don’t use a school of magic, certain abilities in their “kit” that seem like they’d require some sort of magical angle to work. And indeed some are canonically utilized by warrior characters, suggesting it’s not all just hand-wavy game mechanics. For instance Muradin was described to actually “cast” Avatar - complete with magnified size, stonelike skin and lightning coursing across his hands - to slay a Jormungar worm in Northrend when the Frostborne dwarves found him.

One might speculate that lore-wise perhaps such abilities are imparted by way of the most powerful warriors being assumed to use enchanted armor and weapons that amplify and complement their natural skills and resilience. Hence Varian effectively hacking into an infernal during the Legion cinematic and taking down a fel reaver single-handedly at the Broken Shore; it’s to be assumed such feats were possible at least in part because his weapon, Shalamayne, was an enchanted sword rather than mundane steel. In the same vein, it wouldn’t be hard to imagine prominent dwarves like Muradin probably wielding enchanted weapons forged expressly for their use, to “bring out” that sort of strength and power when they call upon it.

In the same vein, the warriors “represented” by players are likely assumed to be canonically decked out in mighty armor chock full of magic and weapons of the same nature, which could perhaps be attributed to their ability to execute superhuman feats when facing foes against whom ordinary NPC warriors are swiftly crushed underfoot.

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I’ve always figured that warriors operate like monks, but without the more refined techniques and skills. Monks use their chi, or spirit, to push their body beyond normal capabilities, directly manipulating their own life energies.

I headcanon that warriors do the same, in a less focused fashion. They channel their rage as a way to have their life energies push beyond what a body can normally do.

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That’s really dependent on the warrior. They’re not all the same, and it’s kind’ve a loose class to be quite honest.

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My answer will be with the assumption you mean in combat.

I think it would depend on the race. Races like humans, dwarves, tauren, orcs, goblins and gnomes likely wouldn’t, as there isn’t really a kind of “magic” focused background on their society. Races like draenei, any flavour of elf, trolls probably would.

But as others have said, anything is possible. Non-PCs aren’t bound to limits.

To some extent they do if you consider the beings themselves who are warriors to be magical in nature or use magical weapons.

What I mean is for example take Broxigar, who might be the best way of explaining both.

He was able to fight hundreds, perhaps thousands of demons in the war of the ancients just being a regular orc. If I remember right he used an enchanted axe which helped him breach demon armor and was very light, I think the elves made it literally “light as a feather”. But they only gave it to him because such an axe would only be useful in a skilled warrior like Broxigar’s hands.

If an unskilled and unfit person picked up the axe and charged at demons they would have killed about 0. Brox killed thousands and held an entire gate by himself.

Just a side note you mentioned spell reflection, a skilled warrior with an enchanted shield, or shield made with metal with magical properties would likely be able to do that. Anyways, back to Broxigar.

Broxigar is a fel-green orc, so when I said the warriors themselves can be ‘magical’ beings that is what I meant. His strength and power is enhanced by the Fel magic coursing through his veins. Worgen are another good example.

In Worgen form they are enhanced by the magic of Goldrinn so Worgen warriors have increased agility, strength, and stamina.

A troll warrior blessed by the loa would be another example, etc etc.

TL;DR both the racial properties of the warriors and the magical nature of their equipment is what I believe allows them to pull off a lot of the more magical or outlandish abilities like you mentioned.

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so warriors have potential to be as strong as any other class then, if broxigar was able to hurt even sargeras?

Its entirely up to what you want to believe for your character. They have abilities like dragon roar and catch on fire when they’re angry so if you want them to be magical, then they use magic.

In my opinion, yes, absolutely.

Even the strongest “mortal” or even inmortal powerhouses have shown that aren’t invulnerable - , Aegwyn, Medivh, Khadgar, Jaina, Sylvanas, Thrall, Malfurion, Tyrande and many others. -I could even include the big shot Demons like Archimonde or Kil’Jaeden on this part

While there’s a lot of questionable stuff about Blizz narrative, one thing that they’ve kept consistent is that, these “demigods” can indeed bleed or be killed by pedestrian means. On the Warcraft universe pure physical prowess have a chance.

Being a stab on the chest with a common sword, a hit with an arrow on the arm, an axe on the back, and so forth, we are supposed to believe that the warriors can figure out a way to beat the Thaumathurges, latent magic on their weapons or not.

Oh! This is exactly the sort of lore I’ve been hoping exists! Would you happen to remember where you read it?

Also, does anyone know if magic can be dodged or blocked? Like say in a cutscene thrall raises the earth to grab somebody, would that person feel the earth shifting and be able to move in time? or like, if a mage was going to polymorph someone could the person soon to be polymorphed move away from where the mage was going to cast the spell and dodge it that way?

Eh, it depends on the spell I would think. Projectile spells could be avoided in the same way any mundane projectile ((Arrow, axe, dart, Bullet?)) could be. Elemental spells like earth grab or even tangling roots would be a bit harder. Spells with no tangible targeting radius like polymorph near impossible as there would be nothing to indicate there was spell being cast. Still some spells in this category require line-of-sight both in-game and in lore. Meaning if you cannot see your target they are immune to your spells. Projectile being the exception as in lore a caster could throw as many fireballs as they want out even at random but in-game we require a viable target.

Spells that effect the body or mind directly would be harder to avoid in general. Polymorph or say mind flay. They could be resisted perhaps if the person has a strong constitution. If not outright “blocked”. Game mechanics aside some spells only work on the weak minded.

That’s what saving throws are all about. :slight_smile:

Warriors use the magical properties of protein powder and their Hope’s and dreams to fight.

Each time I Heroic Leap it’s pretty damn magical

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This is basically my opinion.

I wouldn’t say Warriors “use” magic. It’s not a tool. Rather I would say that Warriors are magical. And I’m confident saying that because everything in the Warcraft setting is inherently magical.

We know organic life inherently has a magical energy. We know that the concept of a soul is very real, and that the soul inherently has a magical energy. We know that inanimate rocks and rain inherently have a magical energy. “Magic” isn’t something supernatural, or outside of what we think of as normal, it’s a fundamental building block of reality intrinsic to all things that exist.

Everyone has a magical energy inside them, even perfectly normal folks who don’t know how to utilize it. And we know this because other people who do have the knowledge can harness that energy, in fel sacrifices and such things.

The path of the Warrior that we play as, which is capable of shattering solid earth, leaping dozens of meters through the air, and roaring loud enough to cause physical damage to enemies… is a method of drawing out the untapped magical potential inherent in oneself. They don’t train their magical potential specifically, they push towards that inadvertently with sheer determination, mastery and rage.

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How else do you think Varian one shotted a Fel Reaver as large as a hill?

Yes, FIST MAGIC!

~https://i.imgur.com/21bAe54.jpg

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