Do people still use Icy Veins guide?

2nd opinion when I need it.

Otherwise last resort.

lmao.

Make sure you check to see if the author is actually playing that class currently btw.

All of DF the mistweaver monk guide on Icy was written by someone who wasn’t even playing the class at the time. Basically a fotm reroller.

Actually after looking…this guy still doesn’t even main the class in TWW and isnt really active in the main monk discord. They even messed up some of the terminology/ability names.

Be wary of any guide writer. Some don’t even play the classes anymore and just collect cash from the site by poorly copying what wowhead and class discords do/say. Looks for guides actually written by people playing those classes/specs. Ignore the rest.

I use icy-veins like a fiend. Sometimes i tweak my build a little because they aren’t perfect, they’re just going off what they know as well as any of us.

We haven’t had a reliable WoW guide in years, unfortunately. You basically have to rely on WowHead or Icy-Veins, but neither are particularly great. They make insane talents choices sometimes and nonsensical rotations without bothering to explain WHY or offering alternatives. They’re usually about 75% accurate but you have to figure out which 25% is incorrect and how to fix it yourself (or adjust to your playstyle).

I’ve noticed that some of the websites mentioned here are actively editing their guides now… was it because of this?

Either way one thing that IV has that WWH is missing is an updated pvp section. That’s where they are also missing that ad revenue and website trafic :dracthyr_shrug:

Nope, sites like icy veins and wowhead are garbage and usually wrong or heavily out of date after a buff/nerf cycle.

If you really want to use guides which are good then by far the best and constantly up to date resource is your class discord.

I always just go on the ranking websites and use whatever is at the top.

Man, I went on there without my adblock on and my computer sounded like it was lifting off :rocket:

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Yeap, azor ftw !

At least in the case of DPS Warrior, Archimtiros writes the guides for both.

use your class discord to get info about the spec you want, and its rotation.

Almost always the websites are not updated for whats best for your toon.

class discord for spec/rotation.

Website for gearing/consume choices: wowhead/icyveins/bloodmallet.

warcraft logs for better Single target Raid rotation depending on the fight.

When it comes to leveling I generally just stick with a starter build it’ll show you point for point where to put your talents level to level once you get up to level cap it’s worthwhile to look over the raid builds or whatever activity you’re looking to get into they usually also have a delve build that is more suited for delves and builds for mythic dungeons

It’s wild to me how many people are saying no, no one uses Icy Veins anymore, when almost every major addon having to do with gear, spec and rotation pulls from Icy Veins for their data. If you’re using GSE rotations, hekli, many weakauras packs, etc those were written using Icy Veins as their base.

The guides on Icy Veins are written by some of the top players of each class and contain whatever the current “meta” is for those classes. And I just used the sub rogue guide and counted through the talents… If you have an extra point, you missed one somewhere.

I did before TWW, they’ve kinda fallen off for me. A lot of these sites aren’t keeping up with patch cycles as much as they used to.

And the Arms guide is fantastic. I’m playing Arms for the first time (actually my first warrior in general, it’s the one class I thought was boring for almost 20 years) and it’s been a lot of fun. Especially after 35, like the guide suggests - it warns that Arms isn’t very good, or very fun, until mid 30s and it was true. From 20-35 it was a slog, but at 35 it became stupid fun. Great off spec when I’m not in the mood to tank (which, holy crap, warrior tanking is SO MUCH fun and ez-mode for keeping aggro)