Please do not ruin what could possibly be the most fast paced fun meta we’ve had in literally 5 years.
Bro every class feels broken and it gives me mop vibes.
My biggest fear is literally that I’ll only enjoy slands for the 2 months it’s on beta then go back to 2-3 years of not enjoying the game
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MoP MM pleeease. I will play every single day if that’s back.
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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/damage-is-a-bit-spicy/631123
Posts like this are superbly worrying. We can not have people asking for 25-30% nerfs the day they get access to the beta. Its unreal.
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Do we all want to die in the rogue’s opener? Or in a cheap shot?
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you can’t be forced to trinket wall sub cheap shot to live either
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Yes. Honestly I want rogue openers to be scary. You don’t die through all CDs and I played a long series vs pshero last night like a lotttt of games. The more we played the better the games went.
As ele arms hpal the pacing and ability to live got better with each game played.
From piffzorz intercepting and popping defensives to save pally bubble. To our swapping the rogue and making him more scared.
The games felt amazing af and I hope they don’t ruin this
I’m pretty sure the biggest reasons people die fast is not even understanding what happened.
People don’t even have access to things like BM trinkets yet.
Other soulbinds have defensive options like venthyr legit has a tier that’s 10% dmg reduction below 40% hp.
Hybrids can actually offheal now thank the lord but it’s mostly casts
Like the games so good I don’t think I’ll log in another time in bfa
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If it is an unmitigated, CD backed go from any dps, and you under-react, yes you should die instantly.
“Non-go” damage should also be scary enough to not allow players to have horrid mispositioning.
For example:
https://youtu.be/lumxwtyx6z8?t=84
Hunter is incredibly close to the pillar, gets charge stunned with recklessness from the warrior, and has to trinket the charge stun and deter or he dies.
Damage has to be high, damage has to be scary.
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Rogues Can open with cheap shot every single game coming from stealth. Rogues are currently killing in that first single opening cheap shot.
It’s not a cd backed go lol
Have you played the beta?
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Well, if you’re ok with rogues killing someone from 90% before alter time can go off…
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1.) I’ve been in since Alpha.
2.) I’ve qd more arena on Beta than you, including last night.
3.) We had 6 games vs Sub rogues.
4.) Read where I say “If it is an unmitigated, CD backed go from any dps, and you under-react, yes you should die instantly.”
A rogue dueled my Destro lock from stealth, complete 1v1, with cheap shot on his bar I assume, and somehow, my Destro came out of that duel alive and we recovered.
I am not saying there are not egregious outliers, I am saying that nerfing all damage by 25-30% is a meme and how we get ssns like the current one.
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I 110% think you should be able to kill someone solo in under 6 seconds if you press your CDs and they press 0 mitigation abilities.
Just so we’re clear, in that clip Venruki is literally completely naked. No barrier, no damage reductions, probably sub 15% versatility, and the rogue pressed numerous cooldowns.
Do you think he shouldn’t die?
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I think if you pre-alter time a go from one dps and you’re at near full hp, you should probably live.
Otherwise, why have alter time in the game? It can’t even save you from one dps.
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Sub rogues hit very hard from stealth. It will get tuned I guarantee it. But I hope not too much, tbh.
From several times dying in the opener to taking a game into the 7-8 minute mark against ele sham + ret paladin, the game felt really good. Initially it was seemingly unfair to die in a cheapshot one time… but it also felt good being able to dumpster that same player in a stun behind a pillar when he overextended. It felt like we were trading insane damage in goes like two heavyweights landing haymakers on each other round after round until someone went down.
There is a new learning curve. Classes now have new buttons and synergy that I didn’t experience in 2k games played this season on live. I may have killed @Stickiriikii several times on priest mind games myself accidentally.
I will say this: Cupid cleave was insane last night.
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Few things to unpack here.
1.) Alter time lasts 8 seconds. You are currently saying that if I simply press Alter time before I get stun chained for 8 seconds, with numerous offensive CDs hitting me, I should just live that stun chain because I press alter time before it happened? That is a meme.
2.) There are numerous ways to use alter creatively, it will assuredly save you in other goes, for example, if he had trinket for that go and blinked, he would likely have lived. Then alter would have teleported him back, and had him at full HP.
3.) Also useful for displacement, I alter top, i drop down, you follow, I alter back up.
To imply that simply pre using alter time should somehow keep you from dying is a meme.
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Thank you, this is exactly how I felt last night.
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The better question is why isn’t Venruki playing normal blink instead of shimmer for that duel? It’s a free trinket for that cheap shot 
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I wasn’t there, but it looked like it was supposed to be a 2v2. Maybe he wanted shimmer to deal with the rogue’s teammate.
Damage is too high on beta.
Oh shoot, I said it. 
Slice and Dice heal was hotfixed already a week or so ago wasn’t it? Isn’t this video already out of date?