Bjomeld, I believe the right ask here is to adjust the way gear is upgraded. Hero track currently requires Gilded for last two upgrades. Always seemed silly that you can get a piece of heroic level gear and be denied access to fully upgrade it via content you are doing.
However Blizzard is probably doing it on purpose to encourage people to “dip their toes” into mythic content.
Blizzard agreed with you. The farmable runed crests from t9 and t10 will make converting to gilded and upgrading the hero gear very doable next season. The limited gilded crests from t11 are a bonus.
This “oh you can run M+ over and over” is horse hockey
It’s like the raid above all other content crowd is purposely being dishonest. You get a drop on average every third M+. Running the same M+ over and over to get one specific drop is the definition of insanity, that RNG generator doesn’t know nor care that you have already ran it 20+ times. 20 times is at least 12 hours invested in a week, if you are doing that for just one dungeon (that same person is doing other content too), you don’t work a full time job or have any family.
What M+ and raid do at the start of a season is offer potential to unlock 3 vault slots per content type. And at start of season that is almost a guaranteed upgrade. Usually via a tier piece. Anything beyond 8 keys in a week is only because I am helping someone and even then only for maybe the first 3 weeks of a season because after then 2 vaults slots is plenty from M+
If delves are to give Mythic crests then they need to be capped. Sorry to solo players, but if that doesnt happen, the vast majority of players (myself included) will be doing delves just to get geared. 3/4 of the endgame pillars in the game are group content, and as an MMO, group content is simply the focus.
Having delves give mythic crests uncapped will make every other form of the game worse. Gear isnt the the barrier preventing most players from building up experience. Actual playtime within those game modes is. If delves are all people initially do to gear, they will have no relevant experience for M+, Raids, no PvP.
Only once crest caps are lifted. Otherwise you can convert 90 runed into 15 gilded, once a week, because of crest caps. Unless they keep it at 45 like they are now.
I ran into this problem earlier in this season, though I was getting most of my runed from heroic raid. Thank goodness the last two bosses there drop gilded or upgrading would have taken much longer because m+ is not my cup of tea.
Easier and quicker solo content should take longer to get geared, if you want to gear quicker you have to be doing raids/mythic+ to supplement your delve gearing, it is the same for raiders having to mythic+ and all other forms having cross over.
Having over half a season to grind full gear from delves is actually insane.
When they originally announced the crest changes, they said that this would be the starting point for Season 2. I guess we’ll have to wait and see if they meant it. If they do revert it, then I’ll likely just gear up enough to unlock conversion then spend until 11.1.7 hoarding crests.
season 3 was great and i dont think we will ever get a season like that again. rather than taking a look at why s3 was so good and doing that it feels like blizzard will do everything but this
they have always wanted us to run mythic raid. pre tww i would say i pretty much just raid to hang out with friends but with how bad m+ was this season it was more like i run keys with friends to hang out and raid to get gear
I’m not saying that shouldn’t be the case. I’ve played the game since it was first released to the public, so I don’t expect that to change. I was merely pushing back against the idea that you’ll be able to farm runed crests to convert to gilded at any reasonable rate until caps are lifted. If they keep the current conversion rate, then that should be fine. The last two bosses in heroic raid, plus two conversions a week afterwards once the season is in full swing should be plenty.
When the caps were removed in this season, it was faster to farm crests flying through orbs when they are in hallowfall than it was to run delves. I’d like to see delves adjusted to be more efficient for farming crests than that currently is.
I sure hope so.
but no where near as efficient or effortless as flying around zones and collecting orbs. I farmed 75 gilded in under an hour last night in hallowfall.
Explain to me how this makes sense?
Slightly better than that, since it’s 2/5. Compare that to raiding, which would be if the game locked out out of attempting for any more for loot after 4 dungeons (8 bosses at 1/5 drop rate). But even with that hard lock, M+ would still have slightly higher odds of giving you loot.
I don’t see the problem with delves being just as rewarding as M+ has been in the past.
At one point you guys were farming +2’s for valor to cap your gear.
M+ has always been easy and farmable content to get near highest ilevel in the game.
Well, until last season when the squish happened and delves introduced.
Now the m+ players are saying, “but Delves are too easy for great rewards!”
Thats not what you guys were saying when it was easy m+ dungeons that could be farmed for BiS gear, crests(valor/whatever the token at the time was).
Why is it such a problem now?
in what world are 8s taking you 40 minutes to clear?
When have 2s ever dropped bis gear? This whole comparison is so bad lol.
If you are a dps pugging and you factor in the group formation process, that’s actually a pretty optimistic number.
DF Season 1. The crest system was created because of it.
This is a travesty. Every player should be excited to get home and log on to play.
Get your IO up and it stops being a factor.
ngl, completely forgot about that and the upgrade sections being locked behind io
No thanks. Having to time all 10s-12s to get enough score to get timely invites to 8s sounds thoroughly unappealing. Blizzard hasn’t invented rewards shiny enough to offset how irritating I find m+. Seasons are 6 months long and I’m okay taking 4 of them to gear up.