That dude will literally see me in any thread and try to bash me for dying on Atra but give no context as to why im doing “10k dps” as if he never died early in a raid before. But hey lets not bring that up lets bring up me saying this.
Says the guy sticking up for the person who bashes everyone.
No im not, you think i am because youre barely reading this thread, im such an ego maniac im in a dad guild who requires prog on every raid tier? Im such an ego maniac i literally sac my parses so others can parse? You dont know what youre saying.
Hell this whole thread the majority of what i have said i find most fun was coming together as a raid group and overcoming a difficult encounter, the example i used was beating a boss that just wiped you 60 times.
But that data doesnt fit your narrative does it?
It was a joke.
Also by that logic, t11 and Firelands were LITERALLY nerfed from original.
the reason why heroic and normal (and later lfr) were made is because of casuals trying to do content and getting owned, it was a way to cater to both portions of the community.
The only legitimate argument around the difficulty is that there’s no middle ground (yet), normal is just too easy and heroic is too hard (for most people).
At some point the community’s mindset change from “i’ll just do normal then prog heroic” at 15 years old to “heroic should always be nerfed because I can’t do it” at 35 years old
This happened during Classic vanilla. People loved getting their world buffs and becoming gods. Maybe less getting world buffs and more having them lol.
This is the issue, and its the problem i have with this player base.
You had to prog vanilla back when my monitor had a thicc back to it and it was no issue not full clearing because we all got gear and will hopefully do better next week, Rag took like 150 days to kill…RAG.
Now its gimme,gimme gimme, have you given me my free rewards yet?!?!?!
Its actually cringe to me that these grown adults cant fathom the idea of having to prog anymore.
Don’t have a narrative, you’ve across a few threads now with the same theme, “agree with me or you’re bad… ‘oh look, you’re blahblah/13H clearly you’re not good enough’”
A. A direct length of time the tier is going to last (lets say it lasts 12 weeks)
then
B. Then after some resets (6-8 weeks?), we would see some nerfs to numbers/mechanics that people clearly can’t do even with the upgraded gear, so they don’t hit a complete standstill in gear progression
Firelands hasn’t been released yet, it was nerfed on PTR and the 1% crylords got their way so far… and no I don’t agree with anything you say other than liking the feeling of progression, but I’m not arguing about what makes me feel good, I’m arguing for what’s best for keeping classic alive.
technically speaking, every raid except the final raid of the expansion is nerfed because the characters get more powerful as balance patches go onwards,
this is why lich king, sunwell, naxx etc feel the way they do, they’ve been created for characters that have the same talent trees that we do. Original cata meta is completely different to ours currently.
Unholy dk and firemage are basically a scourge in 4.3 but almost non existent prior to it
Correct, your ego is stopping you from admitting youre wrong, which would mean im right about the balance of heroic and it still being nerfed from its original release.
there is no doubt that this rag is easier than he was before, the paragon world first was much harder. i expect upwards of 30 guilds to kill him on night 1, its unlikely that he will live 1 hour
yeah they played nearly flawlessly in terms of mechanics, allowing them to 3 heal the fight, which allowed them to enter p4 with only 2 meteors, they had some gear but we’ve actually missed that dps check a number of times, we’re 4 healing but with 4.3 talents we can just afford to
If you listen to the end of it, how happy they all were for finally beating it, thats what i think is special about mmos and coming together as a group and beating something hard together.
For me personally it isnt the gear, its the end of the video that truly makes it special.
This is the main reason i dont want stuff as easy because then i feel prog would disappear along with the magic that makes raiding fun.