Or is it simply a case of plausibile deniability? The Church in Stormwind harbors a Scarlet Emissary in it’s cellars.
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The world and game would be far better off if the southern Alliance publicly denounced the Scarlets but had some elements secretly backing them to help “liberate” Lordaeron from any undead presence. Also seems wrong to not count Scarlets as being part of the Alliance, given they’re remnants of the northern kingdoms that comprised the bulk of the organization (including the Knights of the Silver Hand).
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Are we that much in denial to the point where it’s going to be claimed that the Alliance had nothing to do with them?
It may not have been outright spoken but the fact that a Scarlet Emissary is harbored secretly in Stormwind kind of already bespeaks this.
Hey Drahliana.
So its not so much a denial but actual evidence that the Orcs at any point blame the Humans of Stormwind for the supposed crimes Humans of Lordaeron. Because the funny thing that would happen is the Orcs would be blaming Forsaken rather than the human nation who got completed decimated by Orcs invasion.
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Yeah, Vanilla Alliance were allowed to occasionally be in the wrong, or at least not as strictly Lawful Good. Wish the game would go back to that more often.
That requires the Alliance to be “evil” towards somebody. Who would they be evil towards?
In BFA they showed them burning Vulpera caravans and people were more confused than compelled by the darker storyline.
If they do it against the Horde then its just going to be some long, long over due blood debt paid back.
Best I see it is another “jailer” person coming out of nowhere and the universe will blow up if we don’t stop the crazy Alliance leader that got corrupted.
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No, they don’t have to be evil, that is the same myopic approach that has soured everyone on both factions. They just need to be complicated, mixed bags instead of monolithic expressions of childishly simple morality. Both factions doing questionable things for justifiable reasons is the right path forward.
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Sorry i should have been more clear, i meant an evil action or actions.
Torching a foxperson caravan for no apparent reason vs. Attacking the Forsaken fleet because they cost you your son and kingdom and potentially left The Alliance to die on the Broken Shore.
Attacking the Alliance to free your people from imprisonment and lead them to a new home vs. Forging an orc supremacist nation bent on conquering the world.
Using The Blight to prevent Garrosh from deliberately feeding your people to the meatgrinder vs. Burning Teldrassil to bloat Super Devil’s anima coffers because lava eels.
There are plenty of bad things that have happened or could happen in the service of understandable ends. It isn’t really a question of good or evil at that point. Things should be muddied and complicated, good and bad actors on both sides, etc.
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Doesn’t quite matter when the evil is given justifications and mitigating factors, does it? The Void Elves during BFA threw people alive into the Void to die a slow death by thirst, starvation, asphyxiation, or just getting devoured by some errant void creature. Not really sure how long a normal person would survive in the Void, so its hard to say exactly how they’d die to begin with, but it couldn’t be pleasant.
They also killed innocent workers at Gallywix’s Pleasure Palace during an assassination attempt on Gallywix. Then there’s the Dark Irons with their Magma Golem killing Goblin workers by the Hundreds.
In each case, quest text and dialogue made it apparent each unequivocally evil act justified. Throwing people into the Void? They were Ambassadors or people driving machines, in both cases we were told removing them would ultimately save more lives by depriving the enemy of resources and information, without having to resort to just throwing an entire dock’s worth of people into the void simultaneously just for the threat posed by a few.
Doesn’t change the fact that what happened was evil, no questions asked, but it does make it easier to accept it as an almost necessary evil. Then again, that was the Alliance war campaign in a nutshell. From anything the Void Elves did, down to the suicide army. All, ‘necessary evils,’ that weren’t as bad as what could have happened, or would what have been required otherwise.
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A void infused elf or void elf.
I so hate that this is just an accurate statement.
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Sometimes they simply can’t. Or are damaged so badly that the spirit healers miss on collecting them for the Kyrian. Or are claimed by something else. or bound by a Necromancer to a soul gem. Those killed by Afflliction Warlocks frequently have damaged souls.
You’re thinking of Alleria.
Yes, but at the same time… it takes a special sort of person to put it so beautifully.
Your right, I screwed that up lol
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