Do high elves have a higher population than blood elves?

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I-in Dalaran?
Yes. They got killed for being blood elves.
Jesus wept.

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I certainly wouldn’t be in any particular rush to be anywhere near Dalaran if I were a Blood Elf. Less out of fear, but more due to the absolute rage that would be slowly building up inside me as I observe all the people that simply stood by as my people were rounded up just because they happened to share an eye color with some lunatic.

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That’s pretty close to being God, no?

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Titans are still bellow the first ones according to shadowlands.

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You could use the same argument for the Horde. I mean the Horde was built by the very race that rampaged in Quel’thalas and killed plenty of friends and family. also:

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Esara_Verrinde

  • Did you know that in the past many Magisters studied amongst the Kirin Tor in Dalaran? Perhaps it is time to set aside our grudge and fight the Burning Legion together.
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The same race not government. The modern horde is not the same government as before. While dalaran is still dalaran.

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Except it is not the same government either. Jaina was the one who ordered it and she it gone from the Kirin Tor.

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Several of the leaders are the same. It’s the same government it never had a collapse. For all intents and purposes thrall’s horde is a completely seperate organization from the previous horde simply borrowing the name.

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Saurfang was Doomhammer’s liutenant in command of the rearguard when the Horde marched on Quel’Thalas in the Second War.

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By logic and lore demonstrated numerous times in this thread you are flat out wrong.

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Before he added Ashenvale and Darkshore to his notches, Saurfang often would reminisce on massacring civilians in Stormwind and in Draenor
 interestingly enough Quel’thelas doesn’t seem to merit a place in his musings.

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Sure. I mean, its not as if the Warchief of the Horde of the Second War, the Horde that had invaded Azeroth, burned half of Quel’Thalas with dragonfire, and also allied with the Amani, wasn’t the same Warchief who named Thrall Warchief of the Horde, thus making Thrall his direct successor, even including weapons/armor inherited from said Warchief.

This idea that Thrall’s, ‘New Horde,’ had some kind of clean break from the old one is one of the greatest lies of the narrative. The Horde as it exists today is a continuation of the Horde of the Second War.

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just as the forsaken are a continuation of the undead lordaerians that sieged quelthalas, from a diferent pov silvermoon is still in the (lordaerian)alliance.

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The same ones that ran the internment camps the Orcs hate so very, very much and blame the Alliance for.

Anyone who says the lore doesn’t make sense hasn’t been paying attention. It hasn’t made sense since Vanilla. Blood Elves allying with the same monsters that destroyed half of their kingdom in the Second War, and then killed off 90% of it in the Third War, is hardly the biggest lorelol here. Even beyond the Orcs deciding to ally with their former masters and tormentors and still blame the Alliance for that treatment even though the perpetrators are now standing right next to them, there’s also the fact Thrall allowed a Dreadlord into the Horde WITH the Forsaken, as if he’d completely forgotten what Grom’s sacrifice was about.

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No a bigger one is you who overlooked the more subtle nuance in that history. The Blood Elves were brought into the Horde by the Forsaken who sponsored them, just as they had been sponsored by the Tauren previously.

Another way of looking at it was that they were joining their old Lordaeronian allies against an Alliance that had so betrayed and used them. The devastation done by the Orcs in the Second War paled besides the near extermination brought upon by Arthas and the abuse heaped by Garithos, both of which the Forsaken shared with the Blood Elves as enemies.

The Orcs were now over in Kalimdor, making them quite distance, whereas the Forsaken and Alliance full of Humans and Dwarves, were still next door neighbors.

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Kind of hard for the Alliance to so betray and use them when, after Lordaeron’s fall, all that was really left in the north was Dalaran, and they didn’t know what was going on until it was too late to do a thing about it. Even Kael’thas, the crowned prince of Quel’Thalas, didn’t know about the Scourge’s assault afterwards.

Garithos, of course, is a human from Lordaeron just like the Forsaken. So, its interesting the Blood Elves hate the Alliance for Garithos’ actions, when the remnants of the Alliance have no real claim to him. It’d be one thing if he was from Stormwind, sure. That’d create a very believable situation in which they’d have justifiable cause to want nothing to do with Stormwind, but that isn’t the case here.

The whole situation is very convoluted. In my opinion, the Blood Elves shouldn’t have picked either Horde or Alliance, they should’ve been a part of a third faction, but fat chance of that happening.

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He’s a big hero for most Scarlet RPers I know. :slight_smile:

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Not surprised in the slightest. Thankfully, the Scarlet Crusade isn’t Alliance.

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A third faction of whom? Themselves? Their Troll neighbors? The Scourge at their front door? One has to have a hard look at geographical realities if one were to choose that option.

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I’d say, Illidari. Blood Elves, Naga, Draenei (Lost Ones/Broken, with Akama as a racial leader), not sure what the third option would be, mind you. Satyr?