Do guild master think they own the people in their guild?

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I knew something was coming but I still got ready for raid tonight. Bought a bunch of mats I was missing to make cauldrons, ventus runes, oil … The usual but than about 10 minutes before raid the GM wsp me to let me know that I was being benched and, as expected, there was a new priest with them in the raid.

This childish vengeance from my GM happened because, in his words, he “caught” me looking for a new guild. I wasn’t trying to hide anything and yes I was looking at my options, if there was any, because all I do with the guild I was in is raid, the rest of the week I am a ghost so, maybe, there could be a guild out there that would have more use for me, than again maybe not but you’ll never know if you don’t ask.

Anyways, I wasn’t doing anything wrong and you (probably) can’t convince me otherwise. GM don’t own the people in their guild and guildies shouldn’t have to owe anything to a guild just because it hurts someone’s ego.

It completely ruined my night, I liked the people I was raiding with and got used to their play style. Everything was fine until the GM had a tantrum for not being the center of my world.

The first thing he did after I left the guild was to abuse the reporting function trying to have me silenced (We didn’t even talk) that was just more childish vengeance.

Oh yeah, I admit it I raided the Gbank before leaving. I was piss okay. I was hurt and knew it would make the GM lose his mind, and it did. I made a joke about it being my severance package, well, I thought it was funny.

I don’t care about the gold maybe I left with 15k in mats, which btw is less than I spent on mats earlier but I don’t care about that. I just wanted Him to be piss and maybe ruin his night too. I’m not trying to excuse this, I know it’s bad but I am returning it, later tonight tho.

So all of that to say what?
We’re all human and react as such and sometime it sucks. Maybe try to not let your ego dominate your behavior or something like that.

Hope everyone else is having a good night.

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This some good drama right here :popcorn:

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I feel like I’m in the first month of classic wow.

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No, GMs don’t think they own the people in the guild, but they do own the guild and get to make any decisions they wish with the guild and who is or isn’t a member. Raid Leaders also get to set who they want in a raid. That is what the word “leader” means, that the person with that title leads.

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You basically told the Guild that you weren’t going to be there much longer. They have every right to bench you for someone more committed.

He kicked you because you were going to leave. He had to replace you. These are the consequences of your own actions.

You’re both children.

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Some GMs actually act like this, and those guilds are usually pretty toxic the longer you stay in them.

The other side of that is the GMs that expect the world from you but don’t have any time for you when you need something.

Some of them do. I got some pretty nasty whispers before for leaving a guild to go somewhere else.

Read it again. OP said they were looking around to see what else was out there and the GM found out. Doesn’t mean they were actually planning to leave, but the GM’s action basically pushed them out and I don’t blame anyone for leaving after that.

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No, the GMs of a guild dont own anyone and a decent GM would have spoken to you and asked if you were unhappy about something and could they do anything to make things better for you?

No, you should not have have taken stuff from the bank. Frankly, it makes you look petty and undermines your position in this situation.

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:thinking:

Alright then.

Guild leads will always make sure their teams are filled and will definitely try to find someone to replace someone who may leave. It’s a new person they’re going to test out and it’s needed if you leave. Did you expect the GM to just do nothing until after you left and hope they find a replacement later to not screw up their raid team?

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I’m just surprised there were so many people wanting to raid they needed to bench players in heroic. You’ll find another guild you like. Some GM/officer core groups in guilds do act like the guild exists as a pool of players for them to pull from to achieve their goals. Other guilds are groups of friends all working towards the same goal. Just keep looking til you find something that clicks.

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Did you grow up yet?

This seems really childish and petty.

You deserve everything that’s coming to you.

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I would absolutely bench you. Why would I want you pulling raid gear from the team if you’re most likely not going to be around much longer?

You can justify this in your head all you want but you’re in the wrong 100% and a thief to boot.

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Not all of them are bad but there are tons of abusers out there. I recently left my tbc classic guild that I was co gm in after the guilds “Queen” decided I wasn’t taking my role in the guild seriously enough after I got sick irl and took a few days off from loging in.

If you find yourself in a situation where you don’t enjoy the people you play with its better to leave and start again. Even if it means going down a raid tier in the progress.

GL finding the right place OP.

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I have my doubts about this being the full story.

From the OP’s own words they seem full of themselves.

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Quite the self report. I’d have benched you too OP. If you said you’re leaving then they have to find a replacement. You even stated in your own post that you liked raiding with them and got used to their playstyle. So I don’t get why you’d want to leave.

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I love how many people read the “I raided the guild back before leaving” but didn’t read far enough to see they said they’re returning it all later tonight.

I had the same reaction but tbh I don’t think it’s bad, as if they’re returning it, then they make the guild leader feel just as bad as they do for a bit.

Now if they kept it that’d be another story lol.

That said, although I don’t agree with the guild leader replacing you without talking to you before the raid night, did you ever reach out to them and tell them WHY you were looking around for new guilds?

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This shows your character as a person. I don’t care if you return it.

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The OP was looking to upgrade, we all know exactly what he was doing and so did the GM. I might have asked him why he was looking before I benched him but in the back of my mind, I would be looking for a replacement . Why gear up someone who already has one foot out the door?

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People are free to come and go as they please in guilds, GM’s have no power over that.

I would leave too and put him on ignore. If you have his battle tag use block on that than unfriend him.

I hope you find a guild where you can make good friends and be happy in.

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Yes, when he “caught” me he asked me to explain myself and I did. We didn’t much talk but he let me voice my grievance.

The guild is casual / semi-hardcore and I’ve been in guilds pushing Mythic that would bench me on certain fight, obviously we would have talked about it more than 10 minutes before raid and it’s always been fine so yes, if he had told me, maybe earlier that same day that he was benching me for some reason It would have been a lot less of a big deal.

Also the mats have been returned, well not to the GM because, of course, he blocked me but to a guildie I trust to do the right thing.

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Loyalty has its perks my friend. You’re the jerk for raiding the gbank.

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