I heard they get better in BC. What role should i play on my druid to earn a spot in raids? I want to be viable.
you will be healing in raids, like all hybrids 
Lol aww. In BC this changes right?
probably I donât know. I donât play TBC
In TBC my guilds kept a boomy around. That and a resto druid.
Druidâs caster dps spec is -slightly- more viable in TBC, but itâs not really sustainable how a mage or warlock is.
I played 2019 Classic as Moonkin, I played TBC and Wrath as Moonkin. I absolutely adore this class. Do not panic, we are better in TBC but not really wanted in Vanilla.
It was about finding the right group of people to play with that accepted me, I still held my weight and I wasnât afraid of healing when required.
Druid is a versatile class, jack of all trades master of none.
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The real question is âDo elfs really suck?â
The answer, of course, is a resounding âOUIâ (or whatever silly leaf-language elfs speak).
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Thereâs a case for druid tanks, especially on horde where you have only one tank option. But if you donât love to sit in Gnomergan 24/7, donât be a bear tank lol.
We had a bear tank in our ERA GDKP nax speed run a few months ago, so I know they can do it. Watched him MT when the other tanks magically lost their buffs and we were rolling through the bosses.
But yea most are just gonna make you heal.
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Theyâre the best class and hereâs why:
No other class has so many quality of life talents such as Stealth, Moonglade port, Aquatic form, fast ground travel, MOTW, self-healing, self-tanking.
We donât top the DPS or Health meters, but do you know why this is good? because if youâre doing better than someone else in a dungeon or raid it makes you look good AND embarrasses the other class player.
Not to mention, Druids only go from strength to strength in TBC.
Thankyou for listening to my presentation.
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Druids were allowed to tank at the very beginning of TBC but warriors, incensed at the thought of having to compete for their raid tank role, FLOODED the warcraft forums with QQ posts which forced blizzard to nerf druids back into healbot only status in patch 2.0.10
Blizzard later claimed that the feral nerfs were due to âinternal testingâ instead of forum QQ but ferals were so broken that they were unable to tank normal 5 man dungeons and a hot fix had to be implemented.
ANY amount of testing, âinternalâ or otherwise wouldâve identified these over nerfs and thus prevented the need for the hot fixes.
Thereby proving that blizzard does nerf based solely on forum QQ⌠and that warriors unwilling to share the role of raid tank were the sole reason for the massive druid over nerfs.
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They are terrible, which is why middle aged mothers play them.
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Feral is big in TBC for Leader of the Pack buff. Melee damage will be less than warriors and rogue and comparable to enhance. You could also tank, feral druid is an incredible tank in tbc.
Moonkin is good for the buff for mages/resto sham. You can heal too, up to you. There is a hybrid tax so youâll have to 
that in mind. Not sure on pvp
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balance-resto spec has high skill ceiling, but the things it can do makes you feel things. Watching Morphious wpvp on era is quality.
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During vanilla? If youâre looking to get into an even slightly sweaty/competitive guild, youâll be healing.
If you find a group of people who remember people beat all of this content on literal potato computers using dial-up internet, no world buffs, and half the raid afk auto-shotting/wanding, then you can roll oomkin and itâs not a big deal, either go balls to the wall buying flasks and using them like no cooldown mana potions or learn how to manage your mana.
Cat DPS is⌠better than shadow priest boomkin and ret? Get two power-shift macros, one that just power shifts, and one that drinks a potion/rune and power shifts:
#showtooltip
/cast !Cat Form
Thatâs the just powershift macro, it wonât drop you out of cat if you donât have the mana to re-enter. When you empty your energy, and youâve specced into furor and have wolfshead helm (which youâll be wearing even into TBC mind you), press that macro to re-enter cat form and get 60 energy back, which is enough to cast an untalented shred, so you basically are converting mana and gcds into a shred.
This wonât get you into a sweaty raid, mind you, itâs just how you have to play to not be detrimental to your raid. The +3% crit isnât enough to get you put into a melee group over a shaman with windfury totem, so youâd probably get put into a hunter group since leader of the pack applies to ranged attacks, so with a bunch of hunters and their pets is the best place for you, but upside, youâll benefit from trueshot aura! So thereâs that! I guess! Iâm trying to be optimistic but⌠shrugs
Regarding TBC druid, from Wowhead:
âBears are exceptional tanks throughout the entirety of TBC. ⌠Finally (and perhaps most importantly for the Classic meta), feral tanks can generate the most threat per second (TPS) and damage per second (DPS) of the three tank specs by a significant margin. ⌠In Phase 1 specifically, a bear in BiS mitigation gear packs over 19,000 health, 74% armor mitigation (almost capped), and 58% avoidance when fully raid buffed, while being immune to critical strikes via a combination of Defense and Resilience. By swapping to more threat-skewed gear (using pieces that ferals will already have for DPS) and giving up uncrittability, the TPS of a Phase 1 bear can be increased from ~1250 to ~1550, enough to hold threat against competitive warlocks and fury warriors, while still maintaining 66% armor mitigation and 53% avoidance. ⌠The primary disadvantages of feral tanks are the lack of strong AOE threat generation (similar to warriors), the absence of defensive cooldowns, no protection against crushing blows, and the inability to block with a shield (which is important on a few key encounters in later phases such as Kaelâthas and Illidan). ⌠Similarly, despite no innate defensive cooldowns, the sky-high passive avoidance of feral tanks allows on-use avoidance trinkets such as Moroesâ Lucky Pocket Watch and Badge of Tenacity to function essentially as strong defensive CDs. In fact, when wearing Agility gear, bears can become completely immune to physical hits when avoidance trinkets are activated, providing buffer against big damage spikes or boss mechanics. âŚGiven the strengths mentioned above, the reason for an âAâ rather than âSâ rating in Phase 1 is due to the significant gear advantage that protection warriors have relative to bears in early TBC progression. Warrior Tier 3 gear is on par with level 70 dungeon gear and more than good enough to take straight into Karazhan and 25-man raids. In contrast, feral gear from vanilla is a far cry from TBC raid gear, as Blizzard did not figure out how to properly itemize for ferals until TBC. As a result, bears will be a lot squishier than warriors in the first few weeks of TBC raiding prior to picking up Tier 4 gear, but should still have no issues tanking Karazhan right at 70. For initial Gruul and Magtheridon kills, however, a warrior tank can be more beneficial as the defensive toolkit of a warrior can compensate for being undergeared. By the end of Phase 1, bears are perfectly competitive with warriors as main tanks for all raid content, and are in fact preferred over warriors in threat sensitive scenarios.â
So, despite what other people might say, it is demonstrably the case that Bear Druid is the hands down best tank in TBC once in T4.
In TBC
Bear > Resto >>>> Moonkin >> Cat DPS
Just remember when thinking about what you want to do in the game, at any point, is; Vanilla Nax military ward has a boss, Instructor Razuvious, and the way youâre SUPPOSED to tank him is have priests MC the students to attack himi and as he kills the students you need to DPS him down so he doesnât roflstomp the whole raid. Thatâs how youâre SUPPOSED to tank him. Turns out that rogues can just evade tank him when properly geared, since rogues can, in vanilla, get something like 106% avoidance through dodge, parry, and +defense making them straight up immune to physical attacks for up to 15 minutes at a time (and, lots of gold as well I assume thanks to consumes).
In actual original Vanilla, Onyxia was 5 manned. 40 priests did MC. 40 druids, did MC. Just a little while back 40 MAGES did MC, on era. Donât let the sweats tell you how to play, they donât pay your sub. You can find a guild to take you to content, that guild will be able to clear it when the stoners put down the âwater pipeâ (wouldnât let me post the original word) and the drunks close an eye to help with the double vision long enough to actually press their buttons somewhat coherently for a whole 5 minutes straight.
Now, if you WANT to do speedruns, reroll, druid is a limited commodity being brought for a specific purpose and someone with years of experience on you is filling that role. Roll warrior, rogue, or mage if you want to DPS, warrior if you want to tank, paladin shaman or priest if you want to heal. Otherwise, play what you want, how you want, and youâll find people who will take you. Itâs really not that hard. A LOT of people play this game and not all of them are interested in parsing. Some of them just enjoy BSing on discord while they clear content, and as long as youâre fun to be around, youâll get brought along and if you put in effort, you are contributing.
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TBC PVE: Your options in vanilla is basically Resto and Bear tank PvE.
BearTank PVE is very strong, and like every tank in TBC each has fights its better or worse in.
TBC PVP: Dreamstate Resto and Tree-jeezus resto are your only real good options.
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Raid spots for druid are very limited, and hardcore guilds will typically only take one resto for MoTW. Vanilla raiding is about being a highly specified cog in a machine, so the druidâs versatility isnât really useful since they just do what other classes do in a worse way. You can definitely still get a raid spot as one in a serious guild, but itâs highly competitive. Casual guilds will take anything.
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I want to hear more about the open world PvP and battleground PvP experiences for druids in vanilla and TBC. Anyone?
The toolkit the druid has, hots, decurse, antipoison, shapeshift out of roots and slows, dots, bear for defense, instant travel form make it very good at world PVP when you use the whole toolkit and can establish a war of attrition, hit and run, guerilla style of fight. In the norm of rock paper scissors that is classic wow PVP, you are the nuke and can beat rock, paper, and scissors if you can make good use of your toolkit.
In BGs, WSG specifically, you are an excellent flag runner with hots, anti-root/slow, bear defense. I donât really play AB, so I canât comment on that too much, but stealth is great, moonfire is great to keep the enemy from capping the flag at range, youâre good at keeping a spot until backup arrives. In AV, since itâs PVE, you can do whatever. Nobody is gonna cry about you healing, and if you can hold threat you can tank. Boomy is better than cat for burst afaik, but I like cat for stealth (hang with the rogues and be sneaky heals and root to prevent runners).
In arena, Cezar said it best, Tree Jesus ftw.
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Druids become a great tank in TBC, more in the context of raids.