Do Druid HoTs stack in SoM?

Hey, quick question. I know the debuff limit is gone in SoM so that there is more flexibility in using DoTs, but was there any news from beta on whether or not Druid HoTs will stack on the same target?

*Edit: For clarity…

Don’t think so.

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This makes me sad… :frowning:

As a Resto Druid in Classic, I had two main frustrations.

  1. Not allowed to use HoTs on the tank because it could knock off a world buff.
  2. Raiding with another Resto Druid and fighting over HoT slots.

At least the first one won’t be a thing so 50% isn’t bad?!

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This is why I won’t play a druid in classic xD

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if druid HOT stacked i think ALL healers would be druids tbh…just stack HOT on everything and ignore mechanics.

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Almost makes droods worthless, they need to have their hots STACK…IMHO.

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I dunno, I think I disagree with this.

Even with stacking HoTs you’re going to be a generally inefficient mana healer with a lot of your heals going to overheal. I would expect druids to remain the worst healer, it would just be a smoother experience.

Maybe this is something that can be looked at in a future season?

idk if Wow classic will actually survive multiple seasons. It’s different than diablo in so many ways. This season will work mainly because people hated world buffs so much, but once they get to do classic without those i don’t see future seasons being insanely attractive…unless one of the seasons offers new classic content. If blizzard had any brains they would sink money into that…it would be huge.

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For sure. I think it’s intended to be more like private servers where they try different things for a season. In that, I think it could be really great. I like the idea of it, but I don’t know how I’ll like the execution, so we’ll see. Still, I remain optimistic that if this format of gameplay is well received, Blizzard will be more inclined to iterate and experiment with future seasons.

I sincerely hope this happens as well.

it usually goes by the most powerful HoT when it comes to druids. But since druids have 2 different HoTs, rejuv and regrowth, you can do both of those, a long side a priests’ HoT too.

I do not think that they will stack, the only thing that has changed is the debuff limit so when it comes to DoTs, we will see all the lock dots, same has hunters, rogues, druids, priests, warriors and others. Say if we had 3 hunters, those 3 hunters can have serpent sting on the target/boss.

The SoM information in the Battlenet launcher has that the Buff and Debuff limit has been removed. So, I ask again, is the druid HOTS, from different Druids, Stackable?

It doesn’t, just refreshes

I think Druid HoT stacking is a different mechanic from the buff/debuff limit. Don’t get me wrong, I would be thrilled if Druids weren’t so constrained, but I don’t think the launcher info, as you describe it, indicates that.

In Classic, the buff limit meant that if you were capped on buffs, a new buff could push off an existing one. So, for example, tanks wouldn’t let Druids put HoTs on them for fear of losing an important World Buff. However, even if somebody had only Druid HoTs on them, another Druid couldn’t put their buffs on them without either overwriting the previous HoTs, or being unable to because the existing ones were too powerful.

Removing the buff limit doesn’t change that. Though I do have to wonder… if world buffs aren’t a thing, are people even going to even hit the old limit? I’m sure folks will find a way, lol…

Can’t stack MotW also. it’s purely for preventing buffs from being knocked off imo.

Those aren’t really the same concept. Though perhaps, from the perspective of Vanilla game design mechanics, they are and that’s why it never worked in the first place?

Though I’m not sure about that because DoTs stack on an enemy and I can’t imagine there being much difference between a HoT and a DoT other than some flag that says Help or Harm. I don’t know the engine so I can’t say, other than that they resolved it in future expansions.

Do HoTs stack on friendly targets in TBC? I can’t remember…

Yeah, because that is how it works in TBC, where same HoT’s do stack. :rofl:

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Plus, Priest Renew is the same way. It guts both classes in raids with multiple Druids/Priests, but Druids far worse (both Rejuv & Regrowth HoT portion). You literally need to assign targets/groups in the raid for each Druid/Priest to HoT to avoid any potential overlap. I shelved both my Druid & Priest healers in Classic due to the HoT annoyances & just stuck to my Holy Paladin for healing until TBC was released.

The Rejuv/Renew (of same rank) won’t cast on target if a stronger one is already on target. A stronger Rejuv/Renew (of same rank) will overwrite yours, making your cast a waste of mana. For Regrowth, the heal part will land fine, but the HoT (of same rank cast) won’t land if a stronger one is on target, & a stronger one will overwrite yours already on target (again, wasting your mana by removing your HoT). So glad that TBC & beyond fixed those issues by allowing them to stack.

Edited to clarify

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This is NOT how it worked in classic unless they made some changes for season of mastery. In classic I definitely manipulated multiple copies of HoTs on targets using different ranks.

My strategy was to cast 1rank down HoT spells and make sure to only use Swiftmend to snipe low health targets with the other Druid’s full ranked HoTs on them.

Swift mend will prioritize consuming the highest rank HoT with the shortest duration remaining. Meaning, if you and the other Druid have HoTs on the same target, when they swift mend, it takes his higher rank HoT away even if you have a shorter length duration HoT on the target 1 rank down.
Using this strategy makes it so you can pad the meter more because
1)your HoTs get consumed less than theirs by enemy Druid swift mends
2)still healing with Swiftmend on full rank HoTs but not having to spend the mana to cast those full rank spells (since your swiftmend will consume whichever Druid’s hot is on the target of the highest rank with shortest duration, if you are careful about it, you can make sure to consume the other Druid’s HoT a majority of the time and not your own)

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I was referring to same-rank Rejuv/Renew/Regrowth spells being cast by multiple Druids/Priests on same target.

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