Do devs not realize button bloat is a terrible design?

Pruning is bad we tried that and it failed.

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98.279% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

This is the most popular MMORPG in history and has always had a bunch of “buttons”. The second most popular MMORPG in history, FFXIV also has a bunch. There are plenty of F2P and B2P games with a low amount for people like you that are F2P and B2P for that very reason
they are not worth paying for.

Also, you may have only used those skills on your rogue back in the day, but you still had A LOT of skills.

Lets look at what you DID NOT LIST from classic rogue


Vanish, Cheap Shot, Blind, Pick Pocket, Ambush, Backstab, Gouge, Garrote, Stealth, Sprint, Sap, Kick, Distract, Expose Armor, Evasion, Eviscerate, Rupture, Feint, Sinister Strike
dont even need to keep listing more. You have been proven wrong. Go play another game or something because these “boo hoo too many buttons in this game that has had too many buttons for 18 years” threads are getting as old as the game is.

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People play ff14 as a second life clone.

wow got popular because it was EASIER than competitors.

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Its not a problem. Its mostly true from what I have read on these forums over the years and from those I interact with in game.
They tried the fewer buttons thing and it failed.

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WoW got popular because you didn’t lose XP and levels when you died, and you could level without a group.

That didn’t make it “easier” overall, just less frustrating while leveling.

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Hello my friend, thank you for replying to this thread! Classic rogue rotation is literally Sinister/strike, autos, and slice and dice. In a pve scenario a rogue would be crucified taking up a debuff slot in raid. In a PVP scenario you will use those spells yes, but they are situational in how you press them. Retail PvP and class design is just zug zug, positioning and cc barely matters these day; just pump brother!

Thank you and have a nice day!

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Classic rogue uses pickpocket in pvp?

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CHEEKY CHEEKY MY FRIEND

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You’re doing it wrong, you’re supposed to kill them with whatever you pull out of their pockets
/joke

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And you seem to be under the misapprehension that droves of people are leaving the game because of buttons.

Yes I do think that if people don’t like a game they should move on to something they like, that’s pretty logical don’t you think?

And it’s been pointed out many a time if you only want to press 2 buttons you can do that. No one is stopping you from playing as simply as possible. Nobody is forcing you to use all your abilities if you don’t want to.

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Just because you have an ability doesn’t mean you have to use it.

Think of it like a buffet. You don’t need to fit everything on your plate. Find a combination that works for you out of all the choices available.

Let’s not go back to where we had no choices in our play.

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They’re taking my Call of the Wild over my cold dead anima body!

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Sometimes fewer buttons produce better results for me due to reduced complexity.

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how many abilities does a spec have to have to be bloated? i want an exact number, and it’s one we’ll obviously all agree is correct.

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I love these made up numbers. They’re the first thing that makes me not be able to take a post seriously.

The talent system is the greatest thing to happen to this expansion.

Don’t like the buttons? Use passives. But outside of Enhancement, no main rotation has 20+ buttons. Even Balance only has like 6 main rotational buttons.

Is there a new streamer bandwagon going on that I don’t know about?

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If it’s too hard for you OP you can always download Hekili

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Hello my friend, thank you for not refuting anything. The skills were still there. You can still have only 2 skills as your rotation, 1 skill if you want or 4 or all of them. YOU choose what you want as your rotation out of what is available.

The rest of your thread has always applied to the game and if your “friends” dont want you, there is something wrong with your friends and your choice of playing with elitists that only want that extra .08% usefulness in a game that can be facerolled.

I like your name.
What type of butter do you cleave?

I am sure you have spoken to all of them to be able to say that and I already proved that classic rogue had far far more skills the OP claimed thus making the game now, just like it was then
easier than its competitors!

Yea no back then everyone could play the game and raid, now not every can do the same dps with the current rotation skill cap plus all the rng procs

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